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re: Official Joker SPOILERS/Discussion Thread
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:29 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:29 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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If anything, Joker having insane strength combined with old man strength makes for a formidable foe. :)
This has never been the case, especially with this Joker. Phoenix is a walking skeleton.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
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#Joker opens triumphantly at #1 this wknd with a record $93.5M. Biggest OCT debut of all-time easily beating $80.3M from #Venom this same wknd last year. 4th largest opening wknd of all-time for an R-rated movie behind only the #Deadpool films and #It.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 7:35 pm to Brosef Stalin
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This has never been the case, especially with this Joker. Phoenix is a walking skeleton.
Did the smiley face through you off?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:11 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Just got out. Incredible.
As others have said, it's a slow build, but IMO it was perfect for this type of movie. It's one of the best portrayals of someone's descent into insanity I've ever seen.
It can't be said enough, Phoenix absolutely killed it.
As others have said, it's a slow build, but IMO it was perfect for this type of movie. It's one of the best portrayals of someone's descent into insanity I've ever seen.
It can't be said enough, Phoenix absolutely killed it.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:16 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Wow that’s a good movie. Need to see it again.
The De Niro scene at the end is unreal. I could see it coming and it still blew me away.
When he grabbed the camera and started talking into it, that was some of the purest Joker ever shown on the big screen.
The De Niro scene at the end is unreal. I could see it coming and it still blew me away.
When he grabbed the camera and started talking into it, that was some of the purest Joker ever shown on the big screen.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:17 pm to TheeRealCarolina
One of the best movies I've ever seen. Visually perfect. Haven't read any other posts yet.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:21 pm to BranchDawg
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Wow that’s a good movie. Need to see it again.
The De Niro scene at the end is unreal. I could see it coming and it still blew me away.
When he grabbed the camera and started talking into it, that was some of the purest Joker ever shown on the big screen.
That is one of the most powerful movie scenes ever. It hits home because it's so prevalent in our society.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:22 pm to TheeRealCarolina
I loved this movie. Even though it's slow it's great to have amazing character development for once. The talk show scene was amazing.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:28 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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e was just an abused man with mental issues
That's correct. Everybody is looking for redeeming qualities or political messages and that's not really what the movie is about. Everything doesn't have to be clearly right or wrong. Just be entertained by a visually stunning and awesome performance by Phoenix.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:55 pm to rintintin
I left with the same feeling as I had after Manchester by the Sea. Really well acted but not a whole lot happened.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:23 pm to imAMAZING
I can’t rememebr the last time I left a theater feeling that way. Amazing. Instant classic.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:26 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Look at Mark Hamill’s Joker. If they could incorporate more of that along with the dark elements, that would be something.
That’s EXACTLY what Ledgers Joker did with the “make a pencil disappear” joke. It was absolutely brilliant.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:26 pm to TheeRealCarolina
I'm in the minority. While I enjoyed the movie, that wasn't The Joker. That was a 2hr realistic drama on a criminally-violent insane patient.
You know, the same grimey unkempt psycho you see on the street talking to himself, and you move to the other side of the street to avoid him at all costs? Yeah, they made a movie about that guy.
Ledger's insane Joker was actually funny, mostly throughout, like the Joker should be. They only had to hint, once or twice, at his very dark & mysterious past which made him an equally terrifying villain.
As insane as Ledger's Joker was, he was a brilliant 4D chess mastermind anarchist that almost took down a city, its mob, its police force and its superhero. Joaquin's Joker can only half-the-time smuggle a gun, like a Mark David Chapman.
You know, the same grimey unkempt psycho you see on the street talking to himself, and you move to the other side of the street to avoid him at all costs? Yeah, they made a movie about that guy.
Ledger's insane Joker was actually funny, mostly throughout, like the Joker should be. They only had to hint, once or twice, at his very dark & mysterious past which made him an equally terrifying villain.
As insane as Ledger's Joker was, he was a brilliant 4D chess mastermind anarchist that almost took down a city, its mob, its police force and its superhero. Joaquin's Joker can only half-the-time smuggle a gun, like a Mark David Chapman.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:50 pm to LSUFreek
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Ledger's insane Joker was actually funny, mostly throughout, like the Joker should be.
Ehhhh, was he?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:55 pm to LSUFreek
I just watched it again and I have to agree with you. It was a shock the first go round because I couldn’t wait to watch it. This time, I was a little more critical about it.
Mainly the laugh. I was kind of halfway hoping it would evolve into a more Joker-esque laugh.
Then, during the transformation, he had a bit of swagger about him. But when he walks out and finally sits down and begins talking, it’s like his mindset turns into a 14 year old. A flamboyant 14 year old. His confidence and swagger he carried kinda breaks down for a bit while he’s searching for a joke due to Murray making fun of him.
It’s a good movie for what it is, but I don’t think this is the best we could’ve gotten.
Mainly the laugh. I was kind of halfway hoping it would evolve into a more Joker-esque laugh.
Then, during the transformation, he had a bit of swagger about him. But when he walks out and finally sits down and begins talking, it’s like his mindset turns into a 14 year old. A flamboyant 14 year old. His confidence and swagger he carried kinda breaks down for a bit while he’s searching for a joke due to Murray making fun of him.
It’s a good movie for what it is, but I don’t think this is the best we could’ve gotten.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:23 pm to Brosef Stalin
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If anything, the person interviewing him in that final scene should have been Dr Quinzel.
Except that he murdered that person.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:28 pm to SG_Geaux
The audio in this movie was incredible.
During the talk show murder when the audience was screaming and running out of the theater, I caught myself looking around because it really sounded like people were running out of the theater I was in.
During the talk show murder when the audience was screaming and running out of the theater, I caught myself looking around because it really sounded like people were running out of the theater I was in.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:33 pm to SG_Geaux
When he walks up to the camera, right before the broadcast ends, does he begin to say “why so serious?” or “let’s put a smile on that face.”?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:39 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Risked my life earlier to see it.
I enjoyed it. That character and mental health is perfect. Great job imo
I enjoyed it. That character and mental health is perfect. Great job imo
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 12:59 am
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:53 pm to LSUFreek
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I'm in the minority. While I enjoyed the movie, that wasn't The Joker. That was a 2hr realistic drama on a criminally-violent insane patient.
From Todd Phillips:
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“I literally described to Joaquin at one point in those three months as like, ‘Look at this as a way to sneak a real movie in the studio system under the guise of a comic book film’. It wasn’t, ‘We want to glorify this behavior.’ It was literally like ‘Let’s make a real movie with a real budget and we’ll call it f–ing Joker’. That’s what it was.”
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