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re: The Whstleblower lied from the outset, claimed to have "firsthand" knowledge of misconduct
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:52 am to CamdenTiger
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:52 am to CamdenTiger
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I think what is being linked is there was no urgency for second hand info. The IG was fooled, speculation, that they had first hand info and step up the classification
Question: are you more concerned about process or about the allegation?
The IG confirmed that he vetted the complaint and found it both urgent and credible.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:04 pm to bmy
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The IG confirmed that he vetted the complaint and found it both urgent and credible
Neither the WB or the IG knew what was in the transcript. There was no way the IG could vet any facts, and has said that. All IG had was basic info. Now looks like egg on everyone involved after everything was declassified
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:11 pm to bmy
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Question: are you more concerned about process or about the allegation?
Anyone can make an allegation against someone for anything. The process is the only thing standing between us and a kangaroo court.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:14 pm to bmy
quote:The IG was Atkinson, who is a Clinton lackey, so GTFO with that shite. Everyone else who was charged with determining the gravity of the complaint stated it did not meet the legal standard requirement of "urgent concern".
Question: are you more concerned about process or about the allegation?
The IG confirmed that he vetted the complaint and found it both urgent and credible.
And we all read the transcript, and know the "allegation" is/was bullshite.
The favor asked was about CrowdStrike and to look into reports of Ukrainians admitting to meddling in 2016 on behalf of Hillary.
Zelensky was the one who brought up Rudy, and indirectly Biden.
A request to simply cooperate with Barr/Durham on investigations they are doing is not illegal.
And asking him to see if there was any corruption going on with Hunter Biden or when Joe extorted them for a billion in loans if he didn't fire the prosecutor general is perfectly reasonable, because asking a country leader to look into possible (more like obvious) corruption in his country is perfectly reasonable.
There was no quid pro quo promise, so the whistle-blower, Schiff, and the media were WRONG about that.
There was no extortion/threat of withholding of funds to pressure Zelensky to do Trump's bidding, so the whistle-blower, Schiff, and the media were WRONG there too.
Zelensky stated he was not pressured, and the Ukrainians didn't even know the military aide had been held back until a month later. Plus several Congressmen have already come forward and admitted Trump told them prior to this call to hold back the aide from multiple countries until they promised to pay more towards their own military, so that was the reason for holding back aide. Something he had hammered the EU and UN on since he was elected. Paying more towards military resources and not relying on the US so much.
And again, Zelensky didn't even know that happened.
The allegation is complete bullshite. You clowns are acting like the transcript and all these other facts don't exist, only the narrative created by the whistle-blower matters to you. So piss off. You're a buffoon.
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