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I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:48 pm
In business, the better the salary, generally the the better people come in for employment.
However we have issues.
- socialist teachings
- lack of results
- lack of accountability
- and government ran and that equals waste and lack of production
However we have issues.
- socialist teachings
- lack of results
- lack of accountability
- and government ran and that equals waste and lack of production
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:49 pm to Jjdoc
Schools were never intended to be a teacher only thing. Schools were also intended to have parents play just as big of a role as the teachers. When parents give no fricks, the kids won't either. That's the problem with inner city, government run schools
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:50 pm to Jjdoc
You are really good at complaining, but are you really good at solutions? You know, problem solving skills?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:51 pm to Jjdoc
Schools should be year round with longer breaks
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:52 pm to The Funnie Five
quote:
When parents give no fricks, the kids won't either.
How does this get solved, instead of just complaining and complaining and complaining about it?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:52 pm to Jjdoc
Y’all just got fricking raises all over the country. STFU unless your students are blowing it out on ACT & SAT scores. Teaching should be merit based.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:54 pm to Jjdoc
When a teaching degree becomes a fall back for people who can't get any other type of degree, we have a problem.
I have an acquaintance, that is business-minded. She is very skilled at marketing and would be a good salesperson. When she went into education, instead of marketing or business, I asked, WHY?! She said she couldn't do the math.
She teaches kids math now.....
I have an acquaintance, that is business-minded. She is very skilled at marketing and would be a good salesperson. When she went into education, instead of marketing or business, I asked, WHY?! She said she couldn't do the math.
She teaches kids math now.....
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:56 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid
Teaching what??
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:57 pm to Jjdoc
teachers make more than I do and work 3 months less. I single dad and pay my mortgage just fine. cry me a river.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:57 pm to Jjdoc
That’s the fault of teachers. They demand to be paid based on education and years of service, not performance. Teachers trade pay for job security.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:57 pm to Jjdoc
The problem isn’t that teachers in general are underpaid, it’s that there isn’t enough differentiation in pay between teachers. Crappy 2nd grade teachers in easy subjects are paid the same as calc teachers. Hence why there’s a shortage of calc teachers and a glut of elementary teachers.
Teachers unions and politics prevent the free market from setting the right wage for teachers.
Teachers unions and politics prevent the free market from setting the right wage for teachers.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:58 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:
That’s the fault of teachers. They demand to be paid based on education and years of service, not performance. Teachers trade pay for job security.
AMEN!
Go back to school during your 3 month Summer off, take more classes, get that Masters, get a big pay increase. Merit be damned!
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:00 pm to Jjdoc
quote:All of this... and you want to give them a raise?
- socialist teachings
- lack of results
- lack of accountability
- and government ran and that equals waste and lack of production
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:00 pm to deeprig9
quote:
How does this get solved, instead of just complaining and complaining and complaining about it?
Segregation
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:01 pm to Jjdoc
In somestates, teaching is a 90k job. That ain't underpaid.,
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:03 pm to kingbob
quote:This.
The problem isn’t that teachers in general are underpaid, it’s that there isn’t enough differentiation in pay between teachers.
quote:Yep. Schools are one of the few thing the government literally mandates children attend. It’s that bad.
Teachers unions and politics prevent the free market from setting the right wage for teachers.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:04 pm to Jjdoc
Then you are a fool
A teaching degree is one of, if not the easiest degrees one can obtain in college.
Teachers make a very competitive wage and have an awesome benefits package that few careers can match.
Think on this for a second.
What new information is required to teach K-12 in any discipline.
English hasn't changed in 400+ years
Math all the way through Calculus hasn't changed in 400 years.
Science that would be taught in K-12 hasn't changed in 80 years.
History taught in K-12 hasn't changed in 50+ years.
All of those subjects are taught at basic levels.
A teaching degree is one of, if not the easiest degrees one can obtain in college.
Teachers make a very competitive wage and have an awesome benefits package that few careers can match.
Think on this for a second.
What new information is required to teach K-12 in any discipline.
English hasn't changed in 400+ years
Math all the way through Calculus hasn't changed in 400 years.
Science that would be taught in K-12 hasn't changed in 80 years.
History taught in K-12 hasn't changed in 50+ years.
All of those subjects are taught at basic levels.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:06 pm to Jjdoc
Teachers in Missouri aren’t generally underpaid.
A teacher in the Rockwood school district (suburban St. Louis) with a Master’s degree will be making almost $80k at 20 years. They can then retire with a larger take home pay than they make while employed.
Everyone cries about lack of accountability and then cries about teaching to the test.
A teacher in the Rockwood school district (suburban St. Louis) with a Master’s degree will be making almost $80k at 20 years. They can then retire with a larger take home pay than they make while employed.
Everyone cries about lack of accountability and then cries about teaching to the test.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:06 pm to greygoose
quote:
AMEN! Go back to school during your 3 month Summer off, take more classes, get that Masters, get a big pay increase. Merit be damned!
This past year my son, a HS Freshman, had the worst type of teacher for “Advanced” Biology. He didn’t learn shite. She went months without putting in grades. She lost work he and others turned in...
She had a PhD and 20 years of service. She was also black and “loved”. I figured out why at end of year..she gave them tons of easy shite to do and boosted their grades with it. He deserved a C but got a high B.
But it’s all a game. If I’d rocked the boat to hard, I’m fully convinced this bitch would’ve tanked his grade. He has to take AP Bio in a couple of years anyway so I hope he gets a better teacher and foundation in the subject.
Public schools suck.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:07 pm to Jjdoc
Supply and Demand.
Greater Supply drives down wages.
If getting into the field were tougher, the curriculum or other qualifications for becoming a teacher were tougher, there would be less Supply and wages would increase.
Greater Supply drives down wages.
If getting into the field were tougher, the curriculum or other qualifications for becoming a teacher were tougher, there would be less Supply and wages would increase.
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