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re: Is It Time For The States To Call For A Constitutional Convention?

Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:22 pm to
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Are you referring to the separation of church AND state? If so, that language is not even in the Constitution.

Nor is "freedom from religion" as he alluded to.


I'm well aware that the term "Separation of Church and State" is not part of the constitution, but try telling that to a liberal justice. How many decisions have been made using that phase by liberal Supreme Court justices to advance a secular America and taking away people's right to worship?

Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:04 pm to
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I'm well aware that the term "Separation of Church and State" is not part of the constitution, but try telling that to a liberal justice. How many decisions have been made using that phase by liberal Supreme Court justices to advance a secular America and taking away people's right to worship? 


I'll admit that I'm not well read with respect to people being banned from worshipping their God of choice. That's on me to look into.

I will say that the concept of have a secular government has never been an original thought by progressives. It actually has its roots in classical liberalism.

Free exercise does not inherently mean you have to elevate one religion over another.


Establishment Clause

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United States law, the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, together with that Amendment's Free Exercise Clause, form the constitutional right of freedom of religion. The relevant constitutional text is: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...".
The Establishment Clause was based on a number of precedents, including the Constitutions of Clarendon, the Bill of Rights 1689, and the Pennsylvania and New Jersey colonial constitutions. An initial draft by John Dickinson was prepared in conjunction with his drafting the Articles of Confederation. In 1789, then-congressman James Madison prepared another draft which, following discussion and debate in the First Congress, would become part of the text of the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights. The second half of the Establishment Clause includes the Free Exercise Clause, which allows individual citizens freedom from governmental interference in both private and public religious affairs.
The Establishment Clause is a limitation placed upon the United States Congress preventing it from passing legislation forcing an establishment of religion. The second half of the Establishment Clause inherently prohibits the government from preventing the free exercise of religion.

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