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re: Give one reason paul should be retained for next season.

Posted on 6/13/19 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 12:38 pm to
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the winningest coach in SEC tourney history
oh my gosh. MUH NATIONAL SEEDS!

it amazes me this conversation comes up every season and people keep spouting the same stupid stuff. sec tourney. please
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42881 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 12:55 pm to
Injuries

Still made it to Super and Top 4 of SECT

#1 recruiting class
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18204 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:03 pm to
The “who else” argument is weak when you have an AD with a history like Woody’s. Who else do we hire? No clue-I’m just a fan who wants to see LSU baseball not get passed up by 4 SEC teams on the way to Omaha (should NEVER happen).

But if PM were fired I wouldn’t worry about who his replacement would be, because Scott Woodward is the guy making the hire. Whoever he brings in, I’d trust he’s the right guy.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:08 pm to
He’s earned the ability to coach this young inexperienced group and will be forced out if they don’t overachieve. I see them being picked middle of the pack and they need to finish much better than that
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46787 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:12 pm to
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 It’s les miles 2.0. 


i never knew PM was the most decorated coach in lsu baseball history.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27803 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:32 pm to
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all of those coaches can stay exactly where they are and be the all time best coach that particular university has ever seen and not have to deal with an ounce of the bullshite he would have to here. you think coaches dont pay attention to whats going on? you think they would just jump at an opportunity to come here knowing no matter what it'll never be enough? i get that it's lsu and everyone things it's the greatest place on earth but thats part of the delusion of the fanbase and exactly why most fans cant be happy with anything.


It's called an ego. Saban has it and so did Calipari. I trust Woodward to get who we need. Has done it before and will do it again.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7745 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:40 pm to
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the problem with all this is that it's taken out of context. first, much of it relies on regular season wins in a sport that has a robust postseason tournament. second, how does that compare to what everyone else is doing? well, it falls a bit short



Look bro I stopped responding to your ludacris post in the other thread because it's tiring. When you respond to a post about a national championship,a runner up and multiple other accomplishments with "how does that compare to what everyone else is doing" it really shows just how fricking dumb you are. It makes zero sense. All you have to do is go root for Vanderbilt or UF. LSU will never stop investing the many millions they do in baseball and they will most likely never meet your asinine expectations. If they would have made Omaha this year and went 2 and Q you would have bitched and moaned as well. If they would have won 1 or 2 games in Omaha you would have been crying because we didn't win it all.
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
57385 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:43 pm to
1. He is under contract....

2. Doesn't matter
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4378 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:46 pm to
He is a good coach and what are your qualification for saying different !
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
60541 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:59 pm to
Stfu goober
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 4:26 pm to
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your ludacris post
yeah. the ones with facts like win/loss records. also, ludacris

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When you respond to a post about a national championship
11 seasons ago. but don't mention that

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a runner up and multiple other accomplishments with "how does that compare to what everyone else is doing" it really shows just how fricking dumb you are
holy cow. you have got to be kidding me. you can't assess a program APART from comparing it to other programs. you do know that these programs compete against each other right? they don't just have intrasquad scrimmages.

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All you have to do is go root for Vanderbilt or UF
i post cws win/loss records that make their own conclusion and somehow, i'm not an lsu fan. my word.

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they will most likely never meet your asinine expectations
asinine. yeah. expecting the premier program to basically be #1 over the course of 10 seasons is "asinine." you must be mentally retarded.

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If they would have made Omaha this year and went 2 and Q you would have bitched and moaned as well
link?

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If they would have won 1 or 2 games in Omaha you would have been crying because we didn't win it all
it's unbelievable that i have to continually address strawman arguments merely for posting win/loss records. i have NEVER complained that pm is not winning enough championships. you don't even understand the topic you are commenting on. my gosh you are special

it is astonishing how violent some people get at brute fact records.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4379 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:01 pm to
Record. Recruiting. Stability. Risk of big failure in his replacement. You guys always talk about replacing coaches with the best coach.. and great coach. Whatever.. most of the time those people do not exist or are unavailable.

PM is a solid coach. Perhaps not the number one coach. But I do not and you guys do not know who that coach is.

Next what “best” coach is going to come to LSU after we get rid of PM with his record. Most “best” coaches would think we are irrational. And would not come.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20665 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:04 pm to
We hosted a SR
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18204 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:56 pm to
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Next what “best” coach is going to come to LSU after we get rid of PM with his record. Most “best” coaches would think we are irrational. And would not come.


Any coach worth a damn wouldn’t be scared off by fan expectations. They should have the attitude that their expectations will never be higher than his. You must assume there are some soft-as-baby-shite coaches out there.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:14 pm to
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most of the time those people do not exist or are unavailable
how do you know this?

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PM is a solid coach. Perhaps not the number one coach
therein lies the problem

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what “best” coach is going to come to LSU after we get rid of PM with his record
you realize coaches follow legends all the time right?

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Most “best” coaches would think we are irrational And would not come
how do you know this?
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9206 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:15 pm to
Hes maintained the most consistent baseball program on planet earth.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
17303 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 9:05 pm to
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East Carolina coach, Godwin
Clemson’s coach
Holliday for Ok. St.
Tadlock
O’Connor
O’Sullivan
Corbin
Van Horn
Schlossnagle
McDonnell
Lovelady
Mike Bell
Lemonis
Michigan’s coach


This is a good list of coaches.

If I thought there was someone else who, even if not as accomplished, would be expected to to better than CPM going forward, then I'm all in.

Since Corbin, Sully, and DVH are in the SEC they're easily compared to CPM. And since DVH is in our division (play 'em every year) and he's been at Arky longer than CPM, let's compare:

13 seasons ('07 to '19):
CPM 33 wins to 15 losses
11 series wins (we have 2 sweeps, DVH 1)
6-1 in the SECT
2-0 in the CWS

CPM has taken us there 5X (and 1X w/ ND)
DVH has taken Arky to the CWS 6X (pretty good IMO)

I would love to see the head-to-head #s w/ Corbin and Sully if someone wants to crunch them. But I'd remove DVH from the list. CPM has dominated him.

Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7745 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 9:07 pm to
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yeah. the ones with facts like win/loss records. also, ludacris



Here lies your problem. You can’t decide if you want to judge programs off win/loss records in Omaha, championships, or CWS appearances. If you want to use them all then name me one team that has more of all of those since 2009 than LSU. UF would be your only answer. 1 Team. But I’m not arguing anymore I’m done. You have half a brain and it’s impossible to get anything through to you.

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holy cow. you have got to be kidding me. you can't assess a program APART from comparing it to other programs. you do know that these programs compete against each other right? they don't just have intrasquad scrimmages.


I know those things were accomplished in the toughest conference in the country and all you can say is compare that with other teams. Your a fricking joke. Like I said stop following the sport. You will never be happy

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post cws win/loss records that make their own conclusion and somehow, i'm not an lsu fan. my word


If win/loss records in the CWS is all that matters then Fla St would be king of college baseball lol. Your logic is fricking dumb. The sole reason you hate on PM and say he underachieves is bc of his CWS record over the last 10 years right? Just about every fan would take less trips and hardware over more trips and a handful of popcorn. The thing about it is LSU has the trips and the hardware. Wtf does a win/loss record mean when you can’t even make it to the championship series much less win one.

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link?


You want me to link your female anatomy? You’ve more than made it evident you will never be happy with anything PM has done. Latest 2 years ago but Keep up the bitching princess



This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3564 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 9:44 pm to
he's bringing in the number 1 recruiting class for a second year in a row.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 11:26 pm to
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You can’t decide if you want to judge programs off win/loss records in Omaha, championships, or CWS appearances
the list i post has all 3. there's no need to narrow it down to one.

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name me one team that has more of all of those since 2009 than LSU
i can name multiple

fla 13-13, 10/11/12/15/16/17/18
uva 12-8, 09/11/14/15
vandy 11-6, 11/14/15/19
tcu 11-10, 10/14/15/16/17
ark 9-9, 09/12/15/18/19
lsu 11-7, 09/13/15/17
tex 8-8, 09/11/14/18

now, why is the premier program sitting at 6th on this list after 11 seasons? if you start at 2010, it gets worse for pm. if you start any time after 2010, it gets even more worse. lsu has only made the cws once in the last 4 seasons. how in the world can you not see where this is going?

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UF would be your only answer. 1 Team
you have been proven to be factually wrong on this topic multiple times now.

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You will never be happy
typical ad hominem when your responses can't deal with the facts. who told you i'm not happy?

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If win/loss records in the CWS is all that matters
i didn't say this. but you knew that already didn't you

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Just about every fan would take less trips and hardware over more trips and a handful of popcorn
prove it. let me see you survey every sports fan and produce some hard demographic numbers. idiotic. and then you say things like

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You have half a brain and it’s impossible to get anything through to you
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Your a fricking joke.


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LSU has the trips and the hardware
not as much as others who have a lesser investment in the sport. my gosh you are dense

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Wtf does a win/loss record mean when you can’t even make it to the championship series much less win one
seriously? it's like you're in junior high with this stupidity. multiple programs who have a lesser investment in the sport have more appearances, more wins, and some even have an equal number of championships, all more recent. lsu is being surpassed. it's brute fact. you are acting like it's not.

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You’ve more than made it evident you will never be happy with anything PM has done
when have i ever said this. quote it.

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Keep up the bitching princess
first, i haven't "bitched" one time. second, you are the one with your panties in a wad over statistical fact.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 12:59 am
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