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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:40 pm
Let's watch ourselves in the courtroom, baws.

quote:

The state Supreme Court publicly chided [an attorney] for "an inappropriate verbal exchange with opposing counsel" in court.



LINK

This reportedly was the exchange:

quote:

"Excuse me, sir. You're a liar," Dover told Spears.

"I will punch the (expletive) out of you if you call me a liar again," Spears replied.

Dover responded by calling Spears a liar again.


Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
59055 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Excuse me, sir. You're a liar," Dover told Spears.

"I will punch the (expletive) out of you if you call me a liar again," Spears replied.

Dover responded by calling Spears a liar again.



What happened after the bluff was called
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14502 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:41 pm to
Ot but I enjoy courtroom themed pornos
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104240 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

What happened after the bluff was called


Adjournment to Sonic.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66400 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8921 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:31 pm to
ADA Dover on the right... could be a gentle giant.

This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
5400 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Dover responded by calling Spears a liar again.


Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:58 pm to
Ole baw got down on one knee in the court room

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57797 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

"Excuse me, sir. You're a liar," Dover told Spears.

"I will punch the (expletive) out of you if you call me a liar again," Spears replied.

Dover responded by calling Spears a liar again.



Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:59 pm to
I didnt know Jim Rome practiced law
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20414 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Excuse me, sir. You're a liar," Dover told Spears.

"I will punch the (expletive) out of you if you call me a liar again," Spears replied.

Dover responded by calling Spears a liar again.


This entire exchange is fricking epic.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19802 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:04 pm to
It has become acceptable lately for politicians and lawyers to call others liars.

There was a better time not too long ago when that would catch you an auto beat down.

A while before that it would get you shot.

Calling someone a liar or a thief is something that should only be done when you can prove it is so. Not casually.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Calling someone a liar or a thief is something that should only be done when you can prove it is so. Not casually.


There are two problems here. One is calling another lawyer a liar in court. You just don't do that.

Second, you are supposed to address the Court, not opposing counsel. So if you are going to call your opponent a liar, WHICH YOU SHOULD NEVER DO IN COURT, you would say it this way:

"Your honor, opposing counsel is a liar."
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

This entire exchange is fricking epic.


It's poor professionalism for sure. But I did laugh a little.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8558 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:14 pm to
Is that the lawyer chick who tried unsuccessfully to frick her cab driver in NOLA?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Ole baw got down on one knee in the court room


Ted Bundy style
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25568 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:25 pm to
From In Re Vincenti, a NJ disciplinary case:

quote:

On October 31, 1979, Deputy Attorney General Rem and Eisert agreed to meet with respondent, at his request, for a settlement conference. The Lawyer's Lounge was selected. In addition to addressing insults at Rem, respondent referred to a female attorney, also in the lounge, as "Miss Wrinkles", "Miss Bags" and "old bag", and stated to her: "Shove it up your arse" and "go frick yourself".


quote:

Prior to removing himself from the area, respondent intentionally bumped Pearson with his stomach and then his shoulder, and thereafter advised Pearson that he could take his law firm and "shove it up my arse".




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Under some circumstances it might be difficult to determine precisely the point at which forceful, aggressive trial advocacy crosses the line into the forbidden territory of an ethical violation. But no matter where in the spectrum of courtroom behavior we would draw that line, no matter how indulgent our view of acceptable professional conduct might be, it is inconceivable that the instances of respondent's demeanor that we are called upon to review in these proceedings could ever be countenanced. The record lays bare a shameful display of atrocious deportment calling for substantial discipline. Vincenti, Matter of, 458 A.2d 1268, 92 N.J. 591 (N.J., 1983)
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27431 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:25 pm to
Southern Law Graduates I'm sure
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25568 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Where a petition alleged that the plaintiff was an unmarried white lady, and that while in attendance as a guest of the defendant at a circus performance given by the defendant, and while seated in one of the seats provided by the defendant for the defendant's guests at the circus, a horse, which was going through a dancing performance immediately in front of where the plaintiff was sitting, was by the defendant's servant, who was riding upon the horse, caused to back towards the plaintiff, and while in this situation the horse evacuated his bowels into her lap, that this occurred in full view of many people, some of whom were the defendant's employees, and all of whom laughed at the occurrence, that as a result thereof the plaintiff was caused much embarrassment, mortification, and mental pain and suffering, to her damage in a certain amount, that the damage alleged was due entirely to the defendant's negligence and without any fault on the part of the plaintiff, the petition set out a cause of action and was good as against a general demurrer. Christy Bros. Circus v. Turnage, 144 S.E. 680, 38 Ga.App. 581 (Ga. App., 1928)
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25568 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Í It seems that appellant consumed one plug (of chewing tobacco) of his purchase, which measured up to representations, that it was tobacco unmixed with human flesh, but when ap­pellant tackled the second plug it made him sick, but, not suspecting the tobacco, he tried another chew, ana still another, until he bit into some foreign substance, which crumbled like dry bread, and caused him to foam at the mouth, while he was getting “sicker and sicker.” Finally, his teeth struck something hard; he could not bite through it. After an examination he discovered a human toe, with flesh and nail intact. ] We refrain from detailing the further harrowing and nauseating details. -- Pillars v. R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., 117 Miss. 490, 498 (Miss. 1918)
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