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re: Yesterday, FORTY-FOUR Senate democrats voted for human euthanasia

Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:49 am to
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:49 am to
Here are two stories about real death panels:

Story 1
Carrie Ann Lucas, Disability Rights Activist and Attorney, Dies Following Denial From Insurance Company

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As she documented on her personal blog in January 2018, Lucas became ill with a bad cold. According to her Facebook page, her health insurer, UnitedHealthcare, refused to pay for a specific medication she needed, owing to its cost of $2,000. Consequently, she had to take a different and less-effective medication, which caused deleterious reactions. Lucas’ health rapidly declined, resulting in numerous hospital stays over the last year and the loss of her ability to speak. The obituary on her Facebook noted, “United Healthcare’s attempt to save $2,000 cost over $1 million in health care costs over the past year.” More importantly, Lucas’ friends and family argue, it cost her her life.


Story 2

Former Aetna Medical Director Admits To Never Reviewing Medical Records Before Denying Care

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. . . former Aetna Medical Director, Dr. Jay Ken Iinuma, admitted under oath that “he never looked at patients’ records when deciding whether to approve or deny care.”

This admission was made during a deposition in a lawsuit brought against Aetna by Gillen Washington, a 23 year old with common variable immune deficiency (CVID) who was denied coverage for an infusion of intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIG) four years ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266221 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:56 am to
if we can just save one child...
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27771 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:28 am to
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Carrie Ann Lucas, Disability Rights Activist and Attorney, Dies Following Denial From Insurance Company quote:As she documented on her personal blog in January 2018, Lucas became ill with a bad cold. According to her Facebook page, her health insurer, UnitedHealthcare, refused to pay for a specific medication she needed, owing to its cost of $2,000. Consequently, she had to take a different and less-effective medication, which caused deleterious reactions. Lucas’ health rapidly declined, resulting in numerous hospital stays over the last year and the loss of her ability to speak. The obituary on her Facebook noted, “United Healthcare’s attempt to save $2,000 cost over $1 million in health care costs over the past year.” More importantly, Lucas’ friends and family argue, it cost her her life.

Needed a better doctor. Or a better insurance plan. United Healthcare is shite insurance. That's why people buy it. To "save money". Maybe she should've put that money back for what INSURANCE didn't cover. Now, I'm as anti-insurance as anyone, but if people want costs down...costs have to be cut. I've never had an instance where a patient needed a life saving medicine that I couldn't solve with some creativity. And it usually cost the insurer more than it would've to just cover the shite I asked for to begin with.

I'll actually read the story now.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27771 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:34 am to
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Former Aetna Medical Director Admits To Never Reviewing Medical Records Before Denying Care quote:. . . former Aetna Medical Director, Dr. Jay Ken Iinuma, admitted under oath that “he never looked at patients’ records when deciding whether to approve or deny care.” This admission was made during a deposition in a lawsuit brought against Aetna by Gillen Washington, a 23 year old with common variable immune deficiency (CVID) who was denied coverage for an infusion of intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIG) four years ago.

Happens all the time. ALL insurances. They even outsource this shite now. And guess how these places make their money? By denying care. It gives BCBS/AETNA/UHC etc a scapegoat for the denial (not our decision, it's theirs). But once again, the physician can circumvent the system and get it done. Never had an incident where I couldn't get something approved that was reasonable and necessary. Just ridiculous the amount of time I have to spend doing this shite. And most of the time, the medical review physician doesn't know jack shite about what he's denying and has a script/menu to guide his denial. Always ALWAYS get the physicians name. Record the conversation, preferably with the patient in attendance and vocalize that you have done all you can and any undesirable outcomes now fall fully in the lap of the physician reviewer and insurer. Bam, approved. They just count on most doc's not jumping through the hoops. I also have good specialists I can access to help me get things we need. It's a game.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27771 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:42 am to
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BigAppleBucky


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Here are two stories about real death panels:


Not exactly. There were ways for these treatments to get approved. There are many, many meds that medicare will not cover under ANY instance. If you think gov't healthcare won't result in more rationing and worse coverage and care, you're ill informed or delusional. Read up on European healthcare. It's this kind of shite on steroids, except you have no appeal options, you either accept the shite care your gov't clinic/hospitals give or you pony up cash and go private. UK has a thriving private healthcare system that you never hear about. Since it's not burdened by the gov't and indigent care, it's more affordable, but ONLY to those with private insurance (which exists in UK for those that don't want the shitty "free" care) or those that can pay cash in full.
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