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re: Islamic behavior based on population size
Posted on 2/17/19 at 2:39 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 2/17/19 at 2:39 pm to crazy4lsu
I am an ardent Factsoverfeelings guy. 92.5% this is aimed at the left. The issue of these so called no go zones in Europe, is where my friends in the right let emotion trump logic. Without a doubt there is a serious problem with politicized islam, meshing with Liberal Western Culture. But I see people simply suspend their own reasoning and rationality on this subjectx because of the boogeyman aspect of all of this.
This IMO is seperate from the migrant crisis in Europe, where you have an influx of largely uneducated 15-35 yr old men showing up en masse. That is a prescription for an explosive situation regardless of religion. Europe's leaders really sold out their populace on that one, and IMO could be considered treasonous.
This IMO is seperate from the migrant crisis in Europe, where you have an influx of largely uneducated 15-35 yr old men showing up en masse. That is a prescription for an explosive situation regardless of religion. Europe's leaders really sold out their populace on that one, and IMO could be considered treasonous.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 2:56 pm to Rough1
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This IMO is seperate from the migrant crisis in Europe, where you have an influx of largely uneducated 15-35 yr old men showing up en masse. That is a prescription for an explosive situation regardless of religion. Europe's leaders really sold out their populace on that one, and IMO could be considered treasonous.
Thank you for actually realizing the immigration situation and the migrant situation are two different things. Europe's immigrant population was relatively docile until the mid-00's, and the Syrian Civil War compounded the situation for a multitude of reasons. The problem with the migrant situation is that what happens on the Eastern border of the EU will directly affect all the members, as with free movement, it highly incentivizes terrorist networks to use that movement against targets in Western Europe. Germany took the lead in admitting migrants, partly because Merkel understood that the population pressures in the Eastern EU could destabilize the whole union. Diffusing that population pressure was important for saving the EU as a cogent entity.
The problem, ultimately, is that the refugee system is completely broken, and has been broken since 1991. There are more migrants now than ever, and there are groups of people who've lived only in refugee camps that were designed to last only a few months or years. In those camps, finding people with the proper paperwork is hard, and because it is difficult to obtain paperwork, it again incentivizes migrants to move to Europe, where at least they know they can get into a system, get paperwork, and be legally recognized as individuals, though still effectively stateless. This is why a war with Iran would be utterly disasterous for Europe. Iran has 3 million Afghan refugees from the various Afghani conflicts from 1979 onward. Only 1 million of those Afghani's have paperwork. The other 2 million do not, and therefore have no reason to stay in Iran, where they are isolated and effectively ghettoized. In addition, Iran's easy access to Europe through the Caspian, through Turkey, and through the Caucasus, means that the eastern border of the EU will again be tested, as despite the relatively paltry number of refugees that went to Europe (around 1 million of the 6 million total refugees from the SCW, the majority of whom settled in Turkey, who took more than half, Jordan, and Lebanon), that 1 million or so caused a great deal of chaos, precisely because the refugee system is completely broken, and no one wants to fix it. Imagine now a country of 80 million, with at the minimum 2 million undocumented peoples trying to escape what would be a large war. Can you see how that would effect Europe in a very real way?
A war with Iran, which Israel and the KSA want very badly, would be a completely disastrous affair for all of Western Eurasia and North Africa. The US seems on-board too, but if we really want to save Europe, you have to realize the consequences of another war in West Asia.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 3:04 pm
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