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re: Public School Problems...
Posted on 12/14/18 at 4:55 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 12/14/18 at 4:55 pm to wareaglepete
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On getting into teaching, I am sure the process is probably way too crazy as it is government, but can everyone just teach because they are good at math? Not a knock on anyone, and teaching your own child may go well, but could you be successful teaching a room full of 30 kids? How do you know you could be successful. Teaching is more than just knowing how good your math or science skills are. I am great at math and use it every day, but I know I would have trouble teaching a room full of kids. It would be hard.
Education colleges don’t prepare people for this either. So while your concern is rational and real, there’s no more guarantee that an education grad is going to be better at it than a dude off the street.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 4:57 pm to Bard
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For these kids in this type of situation you can take a school, fill it full of the best teachers and administrators in the world and the positive gains would be minor. Why? Because the moment those kids are out of school they are once again bombarded by the constant reinforcement of how the only way to live life is by making shitty choices.
This isn’t really true. It’s a partial lie propagated by educators to explain their failures.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:54 pm to wareaglepete
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, but can everyone just teach because they are good at math? Not a knock on anyone, and teaching your own child may go well, but could you be successful teaching a room full of 30 kids? How do you know you could be successful. Teaching is more than just knowing how good your math or science skills are. I am great at math and use it every day, but I know I would have trouble teaching a room full of kids. It would be hard.
I'm guessing that the fail rate for hs teachers requirements are in the low single digits. These requirements probably mean almost nothing. While it is true that managing classrooms is a skill in and of itself, it's not true that these requirements indicate any specific skill or talent in that regard.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 6:00 pm to ProjectP2294
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This may already exist, but what about a basic skills assessment at the beginning of the year to set a baseline, and then a similar test at the end of the year to establish the progress?
It does exist.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 2:03 pm to the808bass
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For these kids in this type of situation you can take a school, fill it full of the best teachers and administrators in the world and the positive gains would be minor. Why? Because the moment those kids are out of school they are once again bombarded by the constant reinforcement of how the only way to live life is by making shitty choices.
This isn’t really true. It’s a partial lie propagated by educators to explain their failures.
There is almost always more than one side to a topic. There are indeed some crap teachers but when you have things like 6th graders thinking it's okay to call a teacher "bitch" or a parent that shows up for a parent-teacher meeting at 8am about their child's poor behavrior and performance but the parent still smells like beer and smokes from her night out because she hasn't been home long enough to shower and change clothes... that's a far more a problem with the community than it is the school and it's common in poorly performing schools.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 12/15/18 at 5:45 pm to the808bass
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Education colleges don’t prepare people for this either.
you're wrong there. that's what student teaching is for
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