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re: Trump - We will Close The Border Permanently If Mexico Doesn't Deport Migrants

Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:05 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37024 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:05 am to
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I think it won't matter if we lose the white majority.


It's almost a certainty that white people won't be a majority, but rather will be the largest minority, which is predicted to happen sometime between 2030 and 2060. The TFR of American white people has been below replacement since 1979. The TFR of Hispanic and Black Americans has similarly declined, to where both groups are below replacement. Without major welfare reform, immigration is the only way to sustain the population base to fund these programs, among many other programs.

FWIW, I think lots of behaviors are class-based rather than strictly race-based. SFP has done a lot of good posts about how lower-class whites have similar outcomes to lower-class groups of other races.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:10 am to
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lower-class whites have similar outcomes to lower-class groups of other races.


which is why republicans depend on bible stories and the control of women to incite poor whites to vote tax cuts for companies and the super rich.

This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 9:11 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:11 am to
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It's almost a certainty that white people won't be a majority, but rather will be the largest minority, which is predicted to happen sometime between 2030 and 2060. The TFR of American white people has been below replacement since 1979. The TFR of Hispanic and Black Americans has similarly declined, to where both groups are below replacement. Without major welfare reform, immigration is the only way to sustain the population base to fund these programs, among many other programs.


Yep.

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FWIW, I think lots of behaviors are class-based rather than strictly race-based. SFP has done a lot of good posts about how lower-class whites have similar outcomes to lower-class groups of other races.


I've seen lots and lots of these studies, and there is of course a lot of truth to the concept of class paring between races. Unfortunately, the cultural struggle, which is a zero-sum struggle, between the groups exists outside of economic classes.

There can be a degree of integration of outsiders in a social system, but it can't be anything like what we are experiencing now. The truth as I've come to accept it is that the races are very different, adapted to excel in different social systems. Given the choice, we gravitate towards people of our own kind for a reason.


This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 9:12 am
Posted by cr32pll29
Member since Apr 2017
500 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:44 am to
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It's almost a certainty that white people won't be a majority, but rather will be the largest minority, which is predicted to happen sometime between 2030 and 2060.



It will happen much sooner as current trends are accelerating.

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Without major welfare reform, immigration is the only way to sustain the population base to fund these programs, among many other programs.



Those programs represent giant ponzi shemes as they are currently designed, eternal growth is not practical so a different solution needs to be found.


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FWIW, I think lots of behaviors are class-based rather than strictly race-based. SFP has done a lot of good posts about how lower-class whites have similar outcomes to lower-class groups of other races.



The floor is the same for everybody, the ceiling... not so much.
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