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Paul Ryan: "Russia interfered with the elections, no doubt, but they didn't affect them"
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:54 pm
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“Russia is a menacing government that does not share our interests and it does not share our values and I think that should be made very, very clear.
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It's also clear, Russia did not have any material effect on our elections
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So if they "interfered", and had zero effect, what's the huge deal?
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:56 pm to musick
Well yeah. The problem from the beginning wasn't just interference, though, it was collusion with the Trump campaign to sway the election. If Russia didn't work with Trump and if they didn't affect the election, there is no story here.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:57 pm to musick
And our CIA has done the same in foreign countries for over 50 years
Getting outraged by election meddling is a slippery slope
Getting outraged by election meddling is a slippery slope
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:57 pm to FooManChoo
Trump did not collude with Russia you fricking moron.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:58 pm to musick
Oh they had an effect but it was only effective because it exposed rampant corruption in the DNC and media.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:58 pm to FooManChoo
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Well yeah. The problem from the beginning wasn't just interference, though, it was collusion with the Trump campaign to sway the election.
And then we found out the collusion was with the Clinton campaign and Russia. How is that story basically already dead? It's maddening how the MSM is propaganda at the highest level.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:58 pm to FooManChoo
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If Russia didn't work with Trump and if they didn't effect the election, there is no story here.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:58 pm to musick
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 4:09 am
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:00 pm to musick
I think if they ever publicized the statd on Chinese hacking attempts on US government systems, we’d be looking at tens of thousands daily. Context is everything here, but Dems are framing this as a Russia problem to score cheap political points and they clearly dgaf if they provoke war over the rhetoric
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:00 pm to DelU249
Or the best:
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President Barack Obama has a blunt message for Donald Trump: “Stop whining.” Speaking alongside Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi in the Rose Garden, Obama dismissed Trump's incessant talk of a rigged election as a whimper coming out of a campaign that treats this election like a joke.
“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,” Obama said.
“There’s no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time,” he continued.
“And so, I ‘d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
-Obama, October 2016
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:01 pm to musick
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 4:09 am
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:04 pm to musick
Actually I was going to vote for HRC, til a meme popped up in my newsfeed proving that she was a lizard person.
The Russians obviously put that there to sway me.
The Russians obviously put that there to sway me.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:04 pm to musick
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So if they "interfered", and had zero effect, what's the huge deal?
I suppose we should remove all attempt crimes from the books then, right?
Tried to shoot someone, but missed. What's the huge deal?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:05 pm to Guava Jelly
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I suppose we should remove all attempt crimes from the books then, right?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:06 pm to musick
How does he know that it didn't affect them?
And does the outcome really matter?
And does the outcome really matter?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:06 pm to tigerbait3488
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Trump did not collude with Russia you fricking moron.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Because Trump didn't collude with Russia and because the Russian "interference" didn't actually do anything to sway the election, it's a non-story. The entire investigation was started to see if Trump's campaign worked with Russia to steal an election from the next in line.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:06 pm to musick
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Paul Ryan: "Russia interfered with the elections, no doubt, but they didn't affect them"
This is been said before, like 12 times or something.
Do we have to be reminded of this everyday?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:08 pm to victoire sécurisé
quote:Well if that's the case it sounds like a good place to put a commission together to tighten up the process, naw frick that let's go down the other path.
How does he know that it didn't affect them?
And does the outcome really matter?
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