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Wapo: Democrats must consider court-packing when they regain power.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:14 pm
It’s the only way to save democracy.
that's a pretty good melt. not shockingly, it's from an academic
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Should Democrats gain unified control of government in 2021, they ought to consider this more complete story of court-packing. Before contemplating such unprecedented action, Democrats should offer Republicans a truce in the decades-long judicial wars: the illegitimate Neil Gorsuch resigns, and both parties support a constitutional amendment eliminating lifetime tenure on the Supreme Court, capping service at 18 years.
Routinizing court appointments would eliminate their zero-sum character and ensure all presidents get to influence the future of jurisprudence, rather than relying on the randomness of retirements and deaths. Jimmy Carter didn’t get to fill a single seat on the Supreme Court in his four years in office — Donald Trump will soon have two in less than half a term. That unfairness, if left unaddressed, will eventually destroy the legitimacy of the institution itself.
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That’s why, if the offer falls flat, Democrats should move to implement exactly the sort of narrow court-packing plan that Roosevelt refused to accept. While unprecedented, court packing would be a clearly constitutional move by an elected majority. After all, previous presidents and Congresses have changed the size of the court.
It might sound drastic, part of the orgy of norm-violation that has defined the past decade. But it would help reverse something even more threatening to democracy: indefinite minority rule.
Since 1992, Democrats have won 30 million more votes for the U.S. Senate than Republicans. They have won the popular vote in six of seven presidential elections. But the electoral college, the small-state bias of the Senate and the GOP’s potential dominance of the court have thwarted the will of the people.
that's a pretty good melt. not shockingly, it's from an academic
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David Faris is associated professor of political science at Roosevelt University
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
God damn these people are insane and scary
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:16 pm to Magician2
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God damn these people are insane and scary
i think a legitimate threat of court-packing is one of those things that get 90/10 support on the coasts and eradicates any trust in the party in the Rust Belt and suburbia
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
This will certainly encourage conservatives to be more sympathetic and accommodating.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:17 pm to HempHead
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lol CIAPost
i love how Gorsuch is illegitimate b/c the Senate didn't have confirmations hearings for Garland before they didn't vote for him
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:17 pm to Magician2
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This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 1:51 am
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's almost as if the Founding Fathers didn't want large states and huge cities to control the fate of the country.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Damn! I bet they never thought of THAT !
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
They try this, we either get shooting or serial escalation. Neither is a good outcome.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
As usual, they take their gloves off yet are appalled when they see the knuckles of their opponent.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i love how Gorsuch is illegitimate b/c the Senate didn't have confirmations hearings for Garland before they didn't vote for him
Give the guy a break, SFP. He's a polisci professor and not a legal expert.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:19 pm to udtiger
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It's almost as if the Founding Fathers didn't want large states and huge cities to control the fate of the country.
a LINK to his book
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Faris describes how the Constitution’s deep democratic flaws constantly put progressives at a disadvantage, and lays out strategies for “fighting dirty” though obstructionism and procedural warfare: establishing statehood for D.C. and Puerto Rico; breaking California into several states; creating a larger House of Representatives; passing a new voting rights act; and expanding the Supreme Court.
The Constitution may be the world’s most difficult document to amend, but David Faris argues that many of America’s democratic failures can be fixed within its rigid confines—and, at a time when the stakes have never been higher, he outlines a path for long-term, progressive change in the United States.
yeah he's not a fan of the Constitution
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the small-state bias of the Senate
Almost like it was designed that way.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:20 pm to Magician2
And this is why the democrats can never regain control.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sounds like sedition by him.
What’s the current penalty for sedition?
What’s the current penalty for sedition?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
I really want to unplug from all forms of social media and the endless news cycle.
All of them are losing their freaking minds but it’s faux outrage and it’s just corny. I can’t even enjoy the melting anymore.
All of them are losing their freaking minds but it’s faux outrage and it’s just corny. I can’t even enjoy the melting anymore.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
They cry "Facist!", "Authoritarian!". What is more authoritarian than packing courts in a power grab? Welcome to America's downfall if this happened...
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:21 pm to JoeHackett
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Almost like it was designed that way.
Even better if it reverted to the original design of Senators being appointed by state legislatures.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:21 pm to jcaz
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I can’t even enjoy the melting anymore.
are you saying you're tired of winning?
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