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re: How many people here are personally pro-choice but oppose RvW based on state’s rights?
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:01 pm to Volvagia
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:01 pm to Volvagia
I'm against Roe due to it being Constitutionally ridiculous. It was imagined into existence.
Overturning Roe won't ban abortion nationwide. Some places it might, others not.
Overturning Roe won't ban abortion nationwide. Some places it might, others not.
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:03 pm to Volvagia
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A woman's body is her own business
I got into an argument with a nanny-state feminist in one of my political science classes in college. She supported bans on cigarettes, fatty foods and other soft drinks. I told her that government regulating what a person could or couldn't put in his or her body meant that nobody's body was their own business. It amazes me how feminists can pull the individual liberty card with abortion yet ignore it with respect to every other issue.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:16 pm to Volvagia
Pro choice and I think it’s woman right not even state right to decide what to do with her body.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:18 pm to Volvagia
I'm pro life, but think it should be left to the states...legally
Staunchly...then if the state is a murdering jackwagon I can avoid living there...
Staunchly...then if the state is a murdering jackwagon I can avoid living there...
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:20 pm to SCLibertarian
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. I told her that government regulating what a person could or couldn't put in his or her body meant that nobody's body was their own business. It amazes me how feminists can pull the individual liberty card with abortion yet ignore it with respect to every other issue.
Logic is foreign to them...
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:21 pm to Volvagia
I am, emotionally, pro life, but if there is a large enough portion of society that believe abortion necessary I do not believe in legally barring them for it.
I do not believe it should be a federal issue but left to the states, as some states populations do not want it provided.
I reserve the right to view the women who have them performed as morally reprehensible (under any circumstance), although I will not personally initiate negative dialogue with them.
I do not believe it should be a federal issue but left to the states, as some states populations do not want it provided.
I reserve the right to view the women who have them performed as morally reprehensible (under any circumstance), although I will not personally initiate negative dialogue with them.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:23 pm to Deesgnutz
Actually not.
Male.
Old carryover from a juvenile time where using the name of your favorite video game boss seemed a good idea.
Stones and glass houses, considering you are comparing a 12 year old account with a week old one called a derivative of “Dez nuts”
Sure I can. But I also don’t paint my world views based off what I see on TV with tinged glasses. I see it in personal examples. And he’ll, don’t pretend there are ZERO public figure examples.
But there is no point in discussing that angle with you. If a female does the same exact thing that Mitch did , you see it as evidence of your point as opposed to that individual being an a-hole. No matter what is given, you’ll twist it.
So let’s take a step back.
By the objective, unemotional viewpoint, pre third trimester abortions affect primarily one individual. The one making the call. So right or wrong, they are deciding for themselves.
If you are arguing that those best fit should be making the calls of what is best for us why don’t you sign up for the communist/fascist organization of choice because their views are functionally closer to yours than the ones the US was founded upon.
Male.
Old carryover from a juvenile time where using the name of your favorite video game boss seemed a good idea.
Stones and glass houses, considering you are comparing a 12 year old account with a week old one called a derivative of “Dez nuts”
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Adds up. I'm sorry ma'am but women are to emotional to make such important decisions. Can you name me one that has? SWB? Crooked Hillary? I'm here to listen.
Sure I can. But I also don’t paint my world views based off what I see on TV with tinged glasses. I see it in personal examples. And he’ll, don’t pretend there are ZERO public figure examples.
But there is no point in discussing that angle with you. If a female does the same exact thing that Mitch did , you see it as evidence of your point as opposed to that individual being an a-hole. No matter what is given, you’ll twist it.
So let’s take a step back.
By the objective, unemotional viewpoint, pre third trimester abortions affect primarily one individual. The one making the call. So right or wrong, they are deciding for themselves.
If you are arguing that those best fit should be making the calls of what is best for us why don’t you sign up for the communist/fascist organization of choice because their views are functionally closer to yours than the ones the US was founded upon.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:27 pm to Andychapman13
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can ever be morally justified.
I have trouble with legislating morality. In some cultures drinking is immoral... Others fornication... while others dancing.
Let the punishment of immorality fall on the individual from their own outcomes rather than society giving a punsihment for those issues.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:32 pm to the808bass
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I’m not pro RvW. But I believe it should be a state-level question.
It was to big of a debate to be decided by a small circle of lifelong appointments.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:38 pm to Volvagia
In my lifetime, I’ve seen the term “states rights used to support some pretty horrendous policy, so it’s no one of my major causes
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:42 pm to Volvagia
I don’t think this is something that can be solved with a states rights issue.
The biggest problem with abortion I see is the dishonesty involved.
The vast majority of the pro-abortion crowd fails to recognize that there is a human being who is killed in that procedure. They will go to any length to deny this indisputable scientific fact.
Be honest about what the choice is. The human being who dies deserves that much.
The biggest problem with abortion I see is the dishonesty involved.
The vast majority of the pro-abortion crowd fails to recognize that there is a human being who is killed in that procedure. They will go to any length to deny this indisputable scientific fact.
Be honest about what the choice is. The human being who dies deserves that much.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:17 pm to VOR
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In my lifetime, I’ve seen the term “states rights used to support some pretty horrendous policy, so it’s no one of my major causes
I can see that.
And that is the complicated middle ground.
At the end of the day though, freedom literally means the opportunity to choose poorly.
I would rather issues be debated locally rather than determined by those who don’t have to face the consequences of it.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:17 pm to llfshoals
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vast majority of the pro-abortion crowd fails to recognize that there is a human being who is killed in that procedure.
This.
It’s not a woman’s “choice” whether or not they can kill another individual - especially an unborn infant. I have a real problem with this.
If a pregnant woman is shot - you’re responsible for the baby. If a preganant woman is involved in an accident - you’re responsible for the baby. If something happens to the pregnancy due to negligence if the doctor...they can be sued.
Yet if the woman decides to terminate a pregnancy that’s okay...and that really isn’t a “life”? I call bullshite.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:26 pm to SquatchDawg
I agree with the duplicity of those laws. Also I’ll throw another: the liberty of a woman to make that choice, where the courts have determined the man’s voice died completely when he stuck his dick in her.
But in my opinion, to use that as an rationale against abortion is circular.
It was pushed by people who shared your viewpoints and moral compass. Typically in the aftermath of a reactionary and emotional campaign. And it’s easy to ramp up penalties against those who harm others.
If anything it’s evidence why you should never be emotional in passing laws.
But in my opinion, to use that as an rationale against abortion is circular.
It was pushed by people who shared your viewpoints and moral compass. Typically in the aftermath of a reactionary and emotional campaign. And it’s easy to ramp up penalties against those who harm others.
If anything it’s evidence why you should never be emotional in passing laws.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:29 pm to Volvagia
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I can see that.
And that is the complicated middle ground.
At the end of the day though, freedom literally means the opportunity to choose poorly.
I would rather issues be debated locally rather than determined by those who don’t have to face the consequences of it.
Thanks for being reasonable. I understand your point.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:31 pm to Volvagia
We’re not going to with this battle with legislation. This is a cultural issue. We need to do a better job as human beings if a large portion of the population believes that killing babies is acceptable.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:31 pm to Volvagia
I oppose RvW because there is no constitutional authority for it
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:50 pm to SquatchDawg
But statements like that are why honest conversations are so difficult.
You can’t sit up in a moral high ground while you change the meanings of words for emotional charge value.
I get why it’s a debate, but to act like that he core of the debate is settled and (pun intended) Gospel is at best disingenuous.
It’s why I feel it should be a state legislative issue. Ideally one on the ballot. But if you “lose” there, then enough with calling all other viewpoints immoral sinners then. By all means, continue fighting your cause, but spare us the demonstration that you only truely believe in democracy when you win, and any other outcome is morally wrong.
You can’t sit up in a moral high ground while you change the meanings of words for emotional charge value.
I get why it’s a debate, but to act like that he core of the debate is settled and (pun intended) Gospel is at best disingenuous.
It’s why I feel it should be a state legislative issue. Ideally one on the ballot. But if you “lose” there, then enough with calling all other viewpoints immoral sinners then. By all means, continue fighting your cause, but spare us the demonstration that you only truely believe in democracy when you win, and any other outcome is morally wrong.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:20 pm to SquatchDawg
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This is a cultural issue
Where does your culture stop and my culture begin?
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that killing babies is acceptable
Who is killing babies? Ridiculous hyperbole
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:23 pm to Sentrius
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'm moderately pro choice with limits that value life but I absolutely support Roe v Wade and opposed getting rid of it because it will incite the left and alienate independents and the suburbs that conservatives need to win elections.
I am hoping so bad that Trump opponents someone who is anti Roe v. Wade. The deal economic conservatives made with religious conservatives will explode in their face.
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