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re: why is it so important to dems that it be legal to murder the unborn
Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:39 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:39 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Holy shite -- someone gets it. Morals aside, I believe that abortion up until the fetus is viable should be legal and my reasoning is purely economic. If you're not willing to spend money on welfare (which let's be honest, nobody here likes their tax dollars going to other people's kids), then you shouldn't be against abortion.
The MAJORITY of women seeking abortions come from minority backgrounds and live in or slightly above the poverty line. These women are getting pregnant because of the following:
1) Lack of knowledge or access to contraceptives
2) Lack of knowledge or access to proper sex education
I'm also of the opinion that we either invest upfront in education and contraceptives and see a decline in abortion or we can go ahead and ban abortion and pay the welfare. You can't have both. You cannot ban abortion and refuse welfare when you aren't providing the tools and education for these women to make the right choices from the get-go.
(I hope this made sense as I feel I was a bit all over the place)
The MAJORITY of women seeking abortions come from minority backgrounds and live in or slightly above the poverty line. These women are getting pregnant because of the following:
1) Lack of knowledge or access to contraceptives
2) Lack of knowledge or access to proper sex education
I'm also of the opinion that we either invest upfront in education and contraceptives and see a decline in abortion or we can go ahead and ban abortion and pay the welfare. You can't have both. You cannot ban abortion and refuse welfare when you aren't providing the tools and education for these women to make the right choices from the get-go.
(I hope this made sense as I feel I was a bit all over the place)
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 2:41 pm
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:32 pm to helluvaday
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These women are getting pregnant because of the following: 1) Lack of knowledge or access to contraceptives 2) Lack of knowledge or access to proper sex education
I doubt it is either. Are society is pretty well informed when it comes to sex education and it is hard to find stores that don’t offer condoms. Plus birth control is free on every insurance plan.
Instead they are getting pregnant because they fail to be responsible individuals.
Posted on 6/29/18 at 4:34 pm to helluvaday
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If you're not willing to spend money on welfare (which let's be honest, nobody here likes their tax dollars going to other people's kids), then you shouldn't be against abortion.
That's a silly thing to say. Sorry, but it's true. I don't care for welfare, as a whole. If people genuinely need help, I am all for helping them. I do not, however like perpetual welfare. I find abortion abhorrent, though. So it is easy for me to not like welfare as a whole, but still be strongly against abortion.
quote:What you are saying MIGHT be true, but I doubt it. Do you have a link showing this to be the case?
The MAJORITY of women seeking abortions come from minority backgrounds and live in or slightly above the poverty line.
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1) Lack of knowledge or access to contraceptives
2) Lack of knowledge or access to proper sex education
This can't be true. A condom costs about 20 cents. I can give you a link proving this. There is an auction on e-bay right now for 50 condoms for $10.00. Please don't say the poor people do not have access to computers to buy off e-bay, because you can use a computer at the local library for free.
As for sex education? I would be willing to bet that every single person on this board and in every public school has had sec education. It is taught in pretty much every school in the country.
quote:I vote we ban abortion and pay welfare. Whether you have abortion or not we are going to be paying welfare. But, why don't we fix welfare so only those who truly need it receive it. Those who cannot work instead of those who refuse to work.
I'm also of the opinion that we either invest upfront in education and contraceptives and see a decline in abortion or we can go ahead and ban abortion and pay the welfare. You can't have both.
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(I hope this made sense as I feel I was a bit all over the place)
I understood everything you said. I just don't happen to agree with it. I don't think you have fully watched the abuse of the system for any length of time. My guess is you are somewhere in your 20's or younger.
Posted on 6/29/18 at 5:19 pm to helluvaday
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Morals aside, I believe that abortion up until the fetus is viable should be legal and my reasoning is purely economic.
Wow. So would you be ok if we just started executing all the “burdens” to the economy. I mean we could do a lot better getting rid of the homeless, the prisoners, the drug attics, the people in hospitals that need constant care, etc...
You cannot take morals out of the equation!
Posted on 6/29/18 at 5:25 pm to helluvaday
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1) Lack of knowledge or access to contraceptives
2) Lack of knowledge or access to proper sex education
Did you know 45% of abortions are repeat offenders?
This post was edited on 6/29/18 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 6/29/18 at 5:27 pm to helluvaday
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Morals aside, I believe that abortion up until the fetus is viable should be legal and my reasoning is purely economic
So how do you dtermine when the fetus is viable?
Serious question
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