Yes. But the "decline" was that we probably weren't going to compete for an SEC Championship while Saban was around. Les would probably still average 9-10 wins/year.

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But I refuse to dump all of this schit going on with the program in his lap.

He's the head coach now, so....he should get it all. Allowing for excuses to come into play can derail any valid critique of O.

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The admin that hired O has been in place for years now. They are incompetent. They hired O...therefore they get the lion's share of the blame.

No one disagrees here.

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He didn't hire his own dumb self.

But he did ask for the job, at the school he "loved," knowing he'd have to answer to the fans and meet expectations. If he didn't want the job, or the expectations, then he shouldn't have openly campaigned for the job. So, while the board is certainly at fault, so is O.

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I'm not saying O was dealt a schitty hand to play by any means.....but we wasn't given a royal flush either.

Miles was slipping....not only on the field but recruiting too. He wasn't locking up this state at all. Saban was frequently poaching quality players out of LA...as were other SEC coaches...players we should have been locking up. And say what you want about the ranking of Miles' classes his last few years....it wasn't translating on the field in terms of hardware.
He brought in a Purdue reject to guide the team for god's sakes.
His constant meddling with the O put Aranda in an untenable position frequently.

Juniors kept leaving by the droves (still wonder why that always was with Miles) My question...how do other lesser programs get their juniors to stay?

We have struggled at the QB position for YEARS. You're not going to win championships with a marginal signal caller who can't throw under pressure when he HAS to. DE was not the answer. This problem coupled with the one-dimensional nature of our offense cost us games.

So is Les a good coach with bad talent? A bad coach who put together great talent? Which is it? And why couldn't we determine this before the hire, and then execute based on a full assessment of the team and the talent?

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So we've basically had average coaching since the 2014 season.

Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed.

So we hired from within in multiple coaching positions? And Ed O is one of the ones who decided to do that. Like half of that "average" coaching staff is still in place, and some have received promotions. Think about that. That's on ED O, not Alleva or the board.

This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 3:26 pm