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re: St. George
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:29 pm to loogaroo
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:29 pm to loogaroo
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What will this do to property values in South Baton Rouge outside of St. George (but very close)?
Asking for a friend
I suspect little to nothing. It might marginally help because of some type of halo effect, but I don't think it will really move the needle much.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:30 pm to teke184
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They didn’t get to vote last time due to the petitions getting rejected.
Meh.
They had the signatures and at the 23rd hour Together Baton Rouge pushed a removal campaign to take signatures off the roles either by voluntary choice or "unverifiable" signatures. The Registrar would not let St. George challenge the removals and the petition fell short by 100 signatures.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:42 pm to Antonio Moss
Which backs up my point, which was “it wasn’t allowed to a vote because the petitions got rejected.”
The fix was in, St George wasn’t going to be allowed to leave.
The fix was in, St George wasn’t going to be allowed to leave.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:43 pm to Antonio Moss
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They had the signatures and at the 23rd hour Together Baton Rouge pushed a removal campaign to take signatures off the roles either by voluntary choice or "unverifiable" signatures. The Registrar would not let St. George challenge the removals and the petition fell short by 100 signatures.
Shady as frick.
This time they should file a lawsuit if they aren't allowed to challenge.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:45 pm to BigJim
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I suspect little to nothing. It might marginally help because of some type of halo effect, but I don't think it will really move the needle much.
Long term I think having the tax base stay in the parish will be beneficial to everyone that owns property in the parish.
I don't think there will be any immediate impact either way....but I could easily see neighborhoods in St. George gradually increasing in value if they can improve public schools though.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:55 pm to Machine
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let them have it. now that the mall, casino and medical district are in Baton Rouge city limits, who cares?
let them have a city with outrageous property taxes to fund their 95% white school district.
And watch how much more profitable it will be within 10 years.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 2:15 pm to member12
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but I could easily see neighborhoods in St. George gradually increasing in value if they can improve public schools though.
I don't think it will be all that gradual. Maybe 5 years?
Posted on 3/2/18 at 3:33 pm to member12
they did. Wilson Fields threw it out of court without hearing any arguments. there was no use appealing it because if they won the appeal it would end up back in his court again
Posted on 3/2/18 at 4:16 pm to geauxtigersgirl
Sharon Weston Broome May singlehandedly cause the Tax Paying half of EBR to leave.
It may be the only thing she actually accomplishes
Damn she absolutely sucks as a Mayor. Please Kip. Come back. Run against her. It’s time to reclaim your territory.
It may be the only thing she actually accomplishes
Damn she absolutely sucks as a Mayor. Please Kip. Come back. Run against her. It’s time to reclaim your territory.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 4:58 pm to Wednesday
Sorry Kip left us with z depleted BRPD, a bill for Tram study, a gerrymandered CATS tax, Amar and a host of real problems that Broome can't handle.
Nice guy, showman, but a big spender when now we need some business sense and not Barnum Bailey.
Nice guy, showman, but a big spender when now we need some business sense and not Barnum Bailey.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:32 pm to member12
quote:somebody needs to remind tbr that they are supposed to be watching their cats boondoggle like they said they would. maybe if they did, they would be too busy to worry about st. george
Shady as frick. This time they should file a lawsuit if they aren't allowed to challenge.
there's no way tbr lets this happen. if it did, the money for their potential projects (nbr "food desert" ) would be out of their reach.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:57 pm to doubleb
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now we need some business sense and not Barnum Bailey.
Honestly, I think we need a little of both. This city got a major black eye in the national media with the flood and the Alton Sterling protests. We need a showman with some serious vision who can get some positive hype for this city while also being sensible enough to balance the city's checkbook.
What we will get is either a short-sighted idiot from the rural part of the parish, a corrupt crook looking to direct as much city money as possible to his friends' companies, or a self-destructive SJW black-liberation communist like they have up in J'Africa.
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:10 am to kingbob
Yep somebody who had good economic sense and who could sell would be perfect.
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:57 am to dragginass
Most don't understand that a City does not get you a school system.
The whole parish gets to vote on the school system breaking apart. The demographics of the parish have changed since Central barely won the parish wide vote to create their school system.
We are going to end up with more government and the same school system.
The whole parish gets to vote on the school system breaking apart. The demographics of the parish have changed since Central barely won the parish wide vote to create their school system.
We are going to end up with more government and the same school system.
Posted on 3/3/18 at 10:05 am to Shaun176
More government? Perhaps.
But right now can anyone tell you where all the parish property taxes you pay to the CP(not BREC, COA, etc.) goes? Can anyone tell you where all the sales taxes you pay to the CP goes?
When the mayor "finds" money to build a bike path to L'auberge, or when they hand out a bunch of small contracts to their buddies, or when Downtown needs another green space, or they buy the old Woman's Hospital; do you wonder how much of your tax dollars went into those type ventures?
Personally, I'd like to know and maybe just maybe if we had our own city you could better watch and see and have more input as to how those dollars are spent because right now we really don't have much input.
But right now can anyone tell you where all the parish property taxes you pay to the CP(not BREC, COA, etc.) goes? Can anyone tell you where all the sales taxes you pay to the CP goes?
When the mayor "finds" money to build a bike path to L'auberge, or when they hand out a bunch of small contracts to their buddies, or when Downtown needs another green space, or they buy the old Woman's Hospital; do you wonder how much of your tax dollars went into those type ventures?
Personally, I'd like to know and maybe just maybe if we had our own city you could better watch and see and have more input as to how those dollars are spent because right now we really don't have much input.
Posted on 3/3/18 at 10:19 am to dragginass
As with reverse discrimination, this is reverse civil disobedience, a la MLK. This is a very compelling, in-your-face video. This is a good example of dragging complacent, inbred, obstructionist social mind-sets out into the sunshine for all to see as opposed to the draconian and futile system of pleading your case to deaf ears.
Whoever produced the video deserves a pat on the back. Non-racial and objective. Skin color is no defense for being stupid and obstructive - just for the sake of being obstructive.
Whoever produced the video deserves a pat on the back. Non-racial and objective. Skin color is no defense for being stupid and obstructive - just for the sake of being obstructive.
Posted on 3/3/18 at 11:20 am to doubleb
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But right now can anyone tell you where all the parish property taxes you pay to the CP(not BREC, COA, etc.) goes? Can anyone tell you where all the sales taxes you pay to the CP goes?
This movement does not break the area out of the parish, it creates an new entity to tax us and create ordinances. We will still be in EBR parish and have to pay taxes to the metro council and the mayor. Plus, we will have to support a new government which will have its own set of cronies. We currently pay less in property tax than any of the incorporated areas of EBR parish.
I don't understand how any conservative can think more government and more taxes is the answer.
People are blinded by the promise of a new school system, but the same people (and machine) who elected Broome in a parish wide vote, are going to vote against and defeat the splitting of the school system in a parish wide election.
The solution to better schools in EBR at this point is less government, which means charter schools.
This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:23 am
Posted on 3/3/18 at 4:13 pm to Shaun176
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I don't understand how any conservative can think more government and more taxes is the answer.
Is it bigger govt. to pay taxes to a parish/county for services, or to a city? Are you better served having basic services provided by a smaller body or a larger body?
That's the question because there are advantages to both. Sometimes bigger is better; however, too big means you can't really follow what's going on and you have less control.
Posted on 3/3/18 at 5:46 pm to Mudminnow
quote:And stupid dumb-shits with no skin in the game still get to vote and make life difficult for "The Man".
you will have high property taxes and state income tax, plus Louisiana taxes. Not the greatest of situations
Posted on 3/3/18 at 6:40 pm to doubleb
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Is it bigger govt. to pay taxes to a parish/county for services, or to a city? Are you better served having basic services provided by a smaller body or a larger body?
When St. George happens will still have to pay taxes to the parish government, plus they will pay to the city of St.George. That is why people in Central, Baker, Zachary, and inside BR city limits pay more in property taxes than people in the unincorporated areas. Broome will have the same authority over St. George that she does over the current incorporated areas as parish President. This is not a succession, it is the creation of more government and an additional body that can tax and regulate us.
If the area wanted to succeed from the parish, it would take a constitutional amendment that would have to pass state wide and parish wide.
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