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re: Proposed Moon Mission Offers Little Value at Astronomical Cost

Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:13 pm to
The cost is worth it if we ever find the hiding place of the hot alien babes like the Total Recall chick.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:14 pm to
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Would you post this if Hillary were president?


Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:31 pm to
Half the shite we have tech wise comes from massive amounts of money to fund projects like this.

Spend the money today tomorrow you may have a hover board as a result.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5833 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 11:45 pm to
Science that advances humanity is almost never viewed as profitable at the time.

PS - you suck
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 11:46 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 11:46 pm to
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I just watched Armageddon a few weeks ago

DGAF what anyone says that movie is awesome
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29896 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:45 am to
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DGAF what anyone says that movie is awesome



Also hitting its 20th anniversary which makes me feel really old.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:58 am to
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You’re right, at many thousands of times the price.


And where would that money go? Into the American economy. It would spur a massive uptick in R&D and lead to technologies that we can’t begin to imagine.

You want the let the Chinese beat us there? I’m not saying we need to go tomorrow, but I would like to see a multi step plan that would get us there in 20 years. Especially one that would include a lunar space station and capturing an asteroid.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29896 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:00 am to
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And where would that money go?



A lot of it will be lit on fire and burned up at launch.

Yes lots of R&D will go on, yes we’ll see some benefits, but at great cost. We can do all that anyways without taking on the extraordinarily massive expense of building huge life support systems in the moon and such.

Y’all can argue all you want but I am right about this. Until a far cheaper way out of earths gravity well is developed manned spaceflight makes little sense, especially with advances in computers/robotics/AI.
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1952 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:19 am to
If you don't start being nice, I'll take away your Velcro.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29896 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:28 am to
I’m being nice
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:33 am to
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Tchump is an arse-clown. Let him man the next mission back to the moon and leave his ignorant arse there and sever all communications with the vessel. Let the next born child in the US immediately become President. Win for the US, especially in terms of both intellect and maturity.


Your hate for the POTUS is sad and pathetic. I get it, you don’t like him. I understand that because I hated Obama. But, to say a child would have more intellect is completely asinine. Again, I understand dislike the man but pure facts show that he’s been great for the economy and his presidency was uncovered a widespread attack on our freedom and democracy. How any intelligent and informed red blooded American can not appreciate that is beyond me. You call him stupid and immature but you are the one that allows partisan hate distort your view on a presidency that is clearly good for America and good for democracy.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:36 am to
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Tchump is an arse-clown. Let him man the next mission back to the moon and leave his ignorant arse there and sever all communications with the vessel. Let the next born child in the US immediately become President. Win for the US, especially in terms of both intellect and maturity.


That’s quite the melt
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17237 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:31 pm to
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pure facts show that he’s been great for the economy and his presidency was uncovered a widespread attack on our freedom and democracy. How any intelligent and informed red blooded American can not appreciate that is beyond me. You call him stupid and immature but you are the one that allows partisan hate distort your view on a presidency that is clearly good for America and good for democracy.


Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20997 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:24 pm to
I think welfare & entitlements is a waste of our tax money & in fact offers ZERO value but you don't hear them stopping that, do you?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29896 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:27 pm to
Has nothing to do with the cost per kg of putting stuff in orbit. I’m fine with cutting that stuff too. At the end of the day it makes zero sense to send humans to space when tech/robots can do the same thing and more and not require tons (literally) of mass in life support systems.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
62815 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:30 pm to
Probably a lot cheaper to probe Uranus
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
32178 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:58 pm to
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Mine and launch off to other planets and stars.


Help me understand 1) what we'd be mining up there, and 2) the logistics of getting that incredibly heavy material off the moon and back to the US at a reasonable cost.

Also, if you think that there's anything to be gained by launching to another star from the moon instead of launching from earth, well, I don't know what to tell you. You'd be shortening the overall distance to the nearest star by about 0.00000000001% and adding in an enormous amount of complexity unnecessarily.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
32178 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:02 pm to
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no one gives a shite about space flight if it doesn't involve a human being


I disagree. I'd say that the unmanned missions to Mars and Pluto have gotten an insane amount of coverage and public interest, and have provided an immeasurable amount of scientific data.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
32178 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:05 pm to
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You save money on fuel because there is only a fraction of Eartha gravity.


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Not to mention we don't really have to contend with an atmosphere.



So where does the fuel to launch you off the moon come from? I don't believe there is solid rocket fuel on the moon, and if the suggestion is to fly the fuel up there and then launch from the moon, hopefully you see the flawed logic in that.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29896 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:05 pm to
New Horizons (the Pluto probe) is making its way to fly past a Kuiper Belt Object right now. Won’t get the coverage that Pluto did but still going to be an incredible achievement and our first closeup view of all that shite that’s floating in the outer solar system.
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