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re: Liberals: state your best argument as to why Trump is a bad President
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:19 am to VolsOut4Harambe
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:19 am to VolsOut4Harambe
Failed to implement tariffs on China. Failed to change exchange rate yuan. He gave it up in exchange for non existent help controlling nk nuke missile program. Balance of trade issue. Campaign rhetoric liar.
No one gets credit for nk wanting to be in Olympics.
Failed to formulate means to make Mexico pay for wall.
Had a year. Nada. Still after congress to pay it. Campaign rhetoric liar.
Kissing up to far right by undermining un. Dumbassery to the max.as if the un budget is big deal.
Craziness re Jerusalem embassy.
Just so dumb. Payback to religious zealot voters.
Antithetical to regional peace.
This will have consequences in years to come.
Stalinist tactics re press.
Thus is worst. Trying to get members of press fired.
Short term outlook on energy.
Business opportunities lost.
Germans will own patents.
Fracking and coal maximized instead of transitioning to green.
This is about votes and campaign financing.
The opposite of 7th generation thinking.
No one gets credit for nk wanting to be in Olympics.
Failed to formulate means to make Mexico pay for wall.
Had a year. Nada. Still after congress to pay it. Campaign rhetoric liar.
Kissing up to far right by undermining un. Dumbassery to the max.as if the un budget is big deal.
Craziness re Jerusalem embassy.
Just so dumb. Payback to religious zealot voters.
Antithetical to regional peace.
This will have consequences in years to come.
Stalinist tactics re press.
Thus is worst. Trying to get members of press fired.
Short term outlook on energy.
Business opportunities lost.
Germans will own patents.
Fracking and coal maximized instead of transitioning to green.
This is about votes and campaign financing.
The opposite of 7th generation thinking.
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:21 am to Salmon
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other than disagreeing with several of his major policies?
I know he's not as big of a war hawk as Clinton.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:24 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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He had a back and fourth with Theresa May telling her to worry about islamic terrorism
She should worry about Islamic terrorism.
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Him (sic) and Merkel really don't get along
Merkel's presiding over the downfall of a once-great European nation. She needs to go.
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The laundry list of childish tweets about North Korea
He's neutering Li'l' Kim as we speak.
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He has been incredibly hesitant to every say anything negative about Putin, despite Putin killing media opposition and his country attempting to meddle in our elections.
So? This doesn't mean he an Vlad are butt buddies.
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If you all would actually for a moment look outside the country, you would see the credibility of the country is slowly fading. BUT AS LOOK AS WE GET COAL JOBS BACK, WHO CARES!
No. No it's not.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:25 am to CelticDog
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Stalinist tactics re press.
Thus is worst. Trying to get members of press fired.
Is he spying on them like the previous administration was doing to make sure they were staying within the lines?
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Failed to formulate means to make Mexico pay for wall.
Had a year. Nada. Still after congress to pay it. Campaign rhetoric liar.
So he only gets one year to try to full fill all of his promises?
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Business opportunities lost.
Can you elaborate on this? I've seem many companies expanding their operations here.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:25 am to VolsOut4Harambe
He supports big govt almost as much as the dems.
This includes:
Renewing FISA 702
Support of civil asset forfeiture
Appointing Jeff Sessions
His support of big brother NSA
I am sure I can think of others.
That said I dont like him better than I liked Obama.
This includes:
Renewing FISA 702
Support of civil asset forfeiture
Appointing Jeff Sessions
His support of big brother NSA
I am sure I can think of others.
That said I dont like him better than I liked Obama.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:31 am to CelticDog
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Failed to implement tariffs on China.
The guy has been in office for one year.
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No one gets credit for nk wanting to be in Olympics.
Who cares about the Olympics?
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Failed to formulate means to make Mexico pay for wall.
They will.
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Kissing up to far right by undermining un.
He’s putting his country before others.
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Craziness re Jerusalem embassy.
That’s your opinion. Mine happens to be that this was a brilliant move that was long coming.
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Stalinist tactics re press.
For the first time, a sitting President is holding the press accountable, and they’ve developed the vapors over it.
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Short term outlook on energy.
Huh?
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Business opportunities lost.
On the contrary.
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Germans will own patents.
Ok?
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Fracking and coal maximized instead of transitioning to green.
The three are not mutually exclusive.
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The opposite of 7th generation thinking.
Post-modernist/extremist/fanatical thinking.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:32 am to cajunangelle
Obama could absolutely be petty, but I don't think he let his pettiness consume him to the point that it guided his decision making.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:32 am to cajunangelle
Obama could absolutely be petty, but I don't think he let his pettiness consume him to the point that it guided his decision making.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:33 am to Terry the Tiger
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Maybe Theresa should have paid attention. I was just watching yesterday that Muslims are just walking down the streets of London and now into the countryside spraying people in the face with acid and disfiguring them horribly. Complete Trash!
The credibility of the country is slowly fading? Only because the way the media portrays him here carries over to the international news.
Maybe to the losers in Western Europe because Trump is not going to let them lead him around by his dick like they did Obama. North Korea fears Trump and laughed at Obama. ISIS probably thinks the US is credible. What credibility did Obama have in Syria with his "line in the sand"? Israel is a big fan, and the much of the ME celebrated him on his tour. How credible was the US to China under Obama. They did not even meet him at the airport.
No I'm pretty sure international news can think for itself; But sure, go on believing Fox news and literally discounting every other news source on the planet as 'fake news.'
North Korea fears trump, what evidence do you have for that? north korea loves trump. He's wreckless and inexperienced with international relations.
All of these things he does in the public, everyone around the world sees.
You honest to god think the leaders of Western Europe are like, 'man, the US is for real now that Obama is gone'??
You are really in your own reality if you think that. They see what Trump does every day, and they think 'what a mess, this guy is all over the place.'
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:34 am to The Spleen
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Obama could absolutely be petty, but I don't think he let his pettiness consume him to the point that it guided his decision making.
You mean like how he instructed the IRS to target teaparty groups?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:39 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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He's a god awful foreign diplomat, alienating foreign partners but buddying-up with Putin.
He's only a bad foreign diplomat because he got us out of paying for everything around the world that Obama had us paying for, such as the Paris Climate Accord.
I don't care what other progressive liberal world leaders think because they are identical to the progressive elite in our country. Yeah, don't care for them.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:41 am to bencoleman
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So far 3 pages into this thread
So far you have like a 90% response rate from Trump supporters to a question posed to Liberals.
Take the responses for what they're worth.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:44 am to Salmon
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I believe him to be a very poor leader, which I believe to be a major job requirement as POTUS
How is he a very poor leader? What has he done that other presidents haven't?
And at least Trump is pretty damn transparent. He publicizes his every move. Obama, as we're finding out, wasn't transparent and he was doing illegal and treasonous things behind closed doors.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:44 am to Salmon
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I always find it amusing when a question posed to liberals, democrats, or neverTrumpers, 90% of the replies will be from hardcore Trump supporters answering for them
Of course that will happen, but I do wish they would stay off the thread until we get a couple of pages of "answers".
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:46 am to i am dan
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Obama had us paying for, such as the Paris Climate Accord.
The Paris Climate Accord was non-binding, which meant Trump could have just not paid anything and ignored it. But because of his spitefulness he had to make a show of withdrawing from it.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:46 am to MillerLiteTiger
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You mean like how he instructed the IRS to target teaparty groups?
who told you that, Alex Jones?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:47 am to i am dan
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I always find it amusing when a question posed to liberals, democrats, or neverTrumpers, 90% of the replies will be from hardcore Trump supporters answering for them
Of course that will happen, but I do wish they would stay off the thread until we get a couple of pages of "answers".
Bitch because there's no "legitimate discussion" here.
Bitch when people actually attempt (seemingly pretty clearly in good faith) to actually foster "legitimate discussion."
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:50 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Bitch because there's no "legitimate discussion" here.
Bitch when people actually attempt (seemingly pretty clearly in good faith) to actually foster "legitimate discussion."
you're so dishonest sometimes Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:51 am to Salmon
How so?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:52 am to The Spleen
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The Paris Climate Accord was non-binding, which meant Trump could have just not paid anything and ignored it. But because of his spitefulness he had to make a show of withdrawing from it.
And then be taken to task by your liberal media friends about how he didn't hold up our end of the agreement.
It doesn't matter it was binding or not. The liberal media would have had a bitch fit either way.
Trump tore off the band-aid quickly.
It was smart.
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