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re: Serious question for white male liberals
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:56 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:56 pm to ShortyRob
quote:From the foreign-born population percentages. LINK
I really have no idea where you get that idea from.
Those places have pretty stringent requirements.
Australia: 28%
New Zealand: 25%
Canada: 22%
USA: 14%
And also from the ANZSCO Strategic Skills List. As I said, there are entries for bricklayer, carpenter, diesel mechanic, etc., on top of the usual wish list of doctors and engineers. In the US right now there basically isn't a way for regular joe tradesmen to legally immigrate, nor would there be under the admin's dumb RAISE Act.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:57 pm to jdeval1
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It's very odd. What an interesting time to be alive.
When Obama was elected the Dems abandoned class warfare for social justice and minority issues
This meant stalwarts like unions opposing mass immigration went to the back burner and illegals were added to their coalition.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:03 pm to sostan
quote:
A certain percentage of all types of people are simply contrarians. That's how you have white male liberals.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:14 pm to Iosh
quote:Well yes.
And also from the ANZSCO Strategic Skills List. As I said, there are entries for bricklayer, carpenter, diesel mechanic, etc., on top of the usual wish list of doctors and engineers. In the US right now there basically isn't a way for regular joe tradesmen to legally immigrate, nor would there be under the admin's dumb RAISE Act.
But those nations choose their list of professions they are willing to accept based upon need. Hence, there are actually some high caliber professions NOT on the list.
Regardless though. While it is probably true that knee jerk, a lot of conservatives would not like large numbers you speak of, that's a function of current experience.
But, if you can largely shut down mooching immigration, I suspect you short circuit most complaints about large numbers of PRODUCTIVE people showing up. And, i mean....REALLY productive. Not skin of their teeth, need govt aid productive.
The reality is, the U.S. could be picky as frick and take only the best of the best and STILL be turning away tons of people due to sheer numbers.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:16 pm to Iosh
quote:
A certain percentage of all types of people are simply contrarians. That's how you have white male liberals.
I understand white male liberals in the abstract.
I just don't understand them in the context of today's America where they are the whipping boy for today's party that represents liberals.
To me, in 2018, being a white male liberal is akin to being a black member of the George Wallace administration.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:18 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
I just don't understand them in the context of today's America where they are the whipping boy for today's party that represents liberals.
#1 I don't think it's as bad as you do, though I'm not saying it doesn't exist at all
#2 What else am i supposed to do? I flat out disagree with republicans on ~80% of the issues.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:18 pm to Iosh
quote:
From the foreign-born population percentages. LINK
Australia: 28%
New Zealand: 25%
Canada: 22%
USA: 14%
Those other three countries are all still technically part of the UK Commonwealth of Nations, which has some distinguishing "immigration" type provisions among member nations, but that would still technically count as "foreign born." I wonder if that comes into play here to skew these numbers well beyond what we are typically thinking of as "foreign immigrants" from our perspective.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:20 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Seems like a rather dramatic exaggeration to me but maybe I'm suffering from false consciousness.
I just don't understand them in the context of today's America where they are the whipping boy for today's party that represents liberals.
To me, in 2018, being a white male liberal is akin to being a black member of the George Wallace administration.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:21 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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How do you explain the fact that each generation is more progressive then?
Peoples views change as they grow older. Experience tends to do that to a person.
I think young people get duped into believing that voting for welfare and such is showing compassion.
As you educate yourself, travel the world you'll find compassion is an individual act.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:22 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Doesn't seem to be the case for Canada at least, which was the first one I could find with a snazzy image
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:24 pm to Balloon Huffer
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You should rephrase your question.
How many of you white liberals are successful in life?
How many white liberals have ever accomplished anything of note? (Please note, twitter virtue signaling is not actually an accomplishment)
How many of you white liberals have kids? And why for the first time, IN HISTORY, is a specific human demographic actually trying to create a society where their offspring will be at a disadvantage?
How many of you ACTUALLY let other men frick your wives?
Holy shite. This is the most insecure post I've ever read. It's this a joke?
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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#1 I don't think it's as bad as you do, though I'm not saying it doesn't exist at all
#2 What else am i supposed to do? I flat out disagree with republicans on ~80% of the issues.
Well, like I said. I do understand being liberal even if I disagree with it.
But at some point, self preservation has to kick in.
If Republicans were overtly in policy and passively in rhetoric making me the evil to be opposed in society, I'd get the message.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:28 pm to Iosh
quote:Come on. You have friggin Party people sending out emails saying they don't want to hire white males. And when they get caught, a bunch of white male liberals practically are ho-hum about it. I'm like, dudes. Find your balls.
Seems like a rather dramatic exaggeration to me but maybe I'm suffering from false consciousness.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:28 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Immigration. Conservatives used to run on the "American Dream". Now it's only come here if you have something to offer.
Conservatives didn't move to the right on this issue. We've always been in favor of a measured and controlled system of immigration. Liberals moved to the left on immigration by supporting an open borders free for all.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:31 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I don't see any Democrats suggesting anything that would make me worry about "self-preservation" so this seems overblown. I'm sure there's no shortage of incendiary things said by randos on Twitter or Assistant Professors of Whatever in California but those don't really move the needle for me.
But at some point, self preservation has to kick in.
If Republicans were overtly in policy and passively in rhetoric making me the evil to be opposed in society, I'd get the message.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:35 pm to boogiewoogie1978
dblpost
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:37 pm to JimboFisherAM
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I forget, is Breitbart fake or real news this week?
Who knows your team is so unhinged we cant keep up
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:38 pm to Iosh
A lot of those are Commonwealth Natiions (India, Pakistan, Jamaica - U.K., of course).
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:38 pm to TheHumanTornado
You dumb frick
They chastise you for being a male
They denigrate you for not being a cocksucker
They say you are toxic because you are a male that hunts, fishes and likes male things.
They say you are a rapist if you are attracted to females. (The natural state of being male)
They say you are a racist for just being white
They say you are privileged to get up at 4am every day and work all day to pay your mortgage and taxes.
They degrade you because you are married and take care of your family. You are considered “Nuclear “ if you have a wife you are faithful to instead of having 6 kids with 6 different crack whores
They say they want a “ white genocide “ when referring to your wife, kids, mother and family.
They put you down. They steal your money to give to people of color, some not even Americans, and tell you that you are racist for only giving some and not all of what YOU earn.
They discriminate against you when you go to get a job or when your kid tries to get in college. Because you are white, they overlook you or your kid to put someone in front of you with lower scores. They have frick whitey quota to meet.
They mock you on tv. They blame you because you’re white and they can’t compete with you on advancement test. You may score 10 points above someone else but because you are white, you get overlooked.
Every time there is any conflict with a white and a person of color, Democrats come to the aid of the person of color and put the blame on you because you are white and male.
How can you be for people that hate you? Either you ain’t a white male or you are a white male and one stupid fricking idiot.
They chastise you for being a male
They denigrate you for not being a cocksucker
They say you are toxic because you are a male that hunts, fishes and likes male things.
They say you are a rapist if you are attracted to females. (The natural state of being male)
They say you are a racist for just being white
They say you are privileged to get up at 4am every day and work all day to pay your mortgage and taxes.
They degrade you because you are married and take care of your family. You are considered “Nuclear “ if you have a wife you are faithful to instead of having 6 kids with 6 different crack whores
They say they want a “ white genocide “ when referring to your wife, kids, mother and family.
They put you down. They steal your money to give to people of color, some not even Americans, and tell you that you are racist for only giving some and not all of what YOU earn.
They discriminate against you when you go to get a job or when your kid tries to get in college. Because you are white, they overlook you or your kid to put someone in front of you with lower scores. They have frick whitey quota to meet.
They mock you on tv. They blame you because you’re white and they can’t compete with you on advancement test. You may score 10 points above someone else but because you are white, you get overlooked.
Every time there is any conflict with a white and a person of color, Democrats come to the aid of the person of color and put the blame on you because you are white and male.
How can you be for people that hate you? Either you ain’t a white male or you are a white male and one stupid fricking idiot.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:38 pm to Balloon Huffer
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How many white liberals have ever accomplished anything of note? (Please note, twitter virtue signaling is not actually an accomplishment)
Here's an article from Breitbart which speaks about how the richest people in the world are mostly Progressives.
I forget, is Breitbart fake or real news this week?
Breitbart Article on Richest People in the World and Political Affiliation
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