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re: Church in Opelika, AL had a great message on it's sign for Roy Moore.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:07 pm to Parmen
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:07 pm to Parmen
Churches are tax exempt.
Churches have the right to do what they want when it comes speech. It doesn’t make right.
A preacher can go on TV, radio, or any other place to promote their political views, but churches should be a non-partisan place for people.
Churches have the right to do what they want when it comes speech. It doesn’t make right.
A preacher can go on TV, radio, or any other place to promote their political views, but churches should be a non-partisan place for people.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:07 pm to idlewatcher
quote:A lot of people make a lot of money from charitable or non-profit organizations. Again, there are a lot of similarities between for-profit entities and not-for-profit entities but that doesn't make them businesses.
Joel Osteen and his 3 Gulfstreams disagree
Even if I were to allow the <1% of churches that have Osteen-level preacher salaries to be classified as businesses (they still aren't), the other 99% aren't that way.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:34 pm to mattgr1983
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Tax them like the business they clearly are.
Wait, what?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:36 pm to idlewatcher
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Joel Osteen and his 3 Gulfstreams disagree
So, you've never actually been in a church, eh?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:38 pm to Parmen
My God (literally), people need some fricking perspective. This is why I stick to the cities and interstates when I'm back home.
Well, I've been back for four years. Guess it's just home.
Well, I've been back for four years. Guess it's just home.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:40 pm to Parmen
Even if Roy isn't guilty of the accusations made against him, he's still a fricking moron.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:40 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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This is why I stick to the cities and interstates when I'm back home.
"Go to Church or the Devil Will Get You"
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:45 pm to HempHead
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Go to Church or the Devil Will Get You"
Seen that one many times.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:45 pm to idlewatcher
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Joel Osteen and his 3 Gulfstreams disagree
Joel Osteen is a fraud
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:46 pm to HempHead
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"Go to Church or the Devil Will Get You"
Haven't been to the beach this year to see that gem.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:48 pm to Parmen
Deuteronomy 19:15
One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall a matter be established.
In other words the Judeo-Christian Heritage does not condemn someone in this life from one witness
Neither does the US justice system
One witness is ,he said she said, without other evidence.
For those of you who say, well 7 people have now come forward against him...
Only one of them actually accused a crime.
The rest were legal but not currently US societally accepted activities.
Even more, even if the 16 year olds were true and were a crime, there was NOT more than one witness or other evidence for each crime.
IOW each separate accusation has only one witness with zero other evidence and 6 of 7 wouldn't even be a crime.
It also is not immoral to date a 16 year old regardless of your age. It isn't immoral to date a 14 year old regardless of your age. Provided all had gone through puberty and no sexual contact was made. Many will find it gross(including myself) in our culture but over 80% of the population of the planet would find it normal and perfectly acceptable
It is immoral to have sexual activity with someone outside of marriage regardless of their age.
It would also be immoral to sex even in marriage with a person who has not reached puberty.
One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall a matter be established.
In other words the Judeo-Christian Heritage does not condemn someone in this life from one witness
Neither does the US justice system
One witness is ,he said she said, without other evidence.
For those of you who say, well 7 people have now come forward against him...
Only one of them actually accused a crime.
The rest were legal but not currently US societally accepted activities.
Even more, even if the 16 year olds were true and were a crime, there was NOT more than one witness or other evidence for each crime.
IOW each separate accusation has only one witness with zero other evidence and 6 of 7 wouldn't even be a crime.
It also is not immoral to date a 16 year old regardless of your age. It isn't immoral to date a 14 year old regardless of your age. Provided all had gone through puberty and no sexual contact was made. Many will find it gross(including myself) in our culture but over 80% of the population of the planet would find it normal and perfectly acceptable
It is immoral to have sexual activity with someone outside of marriage regardless of their age.
It would also be immoral to sex even in marriage with a person who has not reached puberty.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:08 pm to HempHead
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You know how I know you don't know where Opelika is?
There all the same people.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:41 pm to Parmen
The next sign they should put up is "They falsely accused Jeesus, Support Harvey Weinstein!"
you know, to be all equal and shite
you know, to be all equal and shite
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:49 pm to Parmen
Wow, they're basically comparing Roy Moore to Jesus Christ. Just more evidence that a lot of people in Alabama are nutjobs.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:54 pm to mattgr1983
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Tax them like the business they clearly are.
Definitely, especially now that Trump has overturned the so-called Johnson Amendment, which prohibits political donations and advocacy by religious organizations at the risk of losing their tax-exempt status. Since churches, mosques and synagogues will soon be able to freely back political candidates with monetary donations, they SHOULD lose their tax-exempt status.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 6:04 pm to Parmen
There are a thousand reasons to not vote for Roy Moore besides these allegations.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:37 pm to Salmon
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churches actively campaigning for politicians is still against the law
Could you please cite the statute?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:39 pm to Parmen
Is this one of those churches where the women can't wear makeup or pants/shorts and they handle snakes?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:54 pm to Toddy
Let your women be silent in church.
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