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re: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Switch JRPG Official Thread (84/100 Metacritic)
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:20 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:20 pm to Freauxzen
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wonder what would happen had I rolled like a bunch of healers on Rex.
I have 6 right now on Rex and no other types of rares.
I finished chapter 3 and have just been crystal farming
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:09 pm to Breesus
The combat is confusing as frick.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:36 pm to DelU249
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The combat is confusing as frick.
I'll try to simplify it....
1. All weapons have 3-5 hit auto attack sequences and all Blades have Elements
2. To charge Arts (B, Y, and X) and Specials (A) faster - You have to cancel attacks by hitting the button right after an attack finishes, preferably on the final attack of a weapon sequence. This is called a "Cancel" Think of it as "Cancelling the next attack in the sequence or finishing a sequence."
3. You can also "Cancel" into Weapon Switches as well (Directional Up, Right and Down) - this is crucial for building Blade Combos. You can also cancel into Specials. Any kind of cancel builds meter faster, so you want to "Cancel" as often as possible.
4. Blade Combos are executed by a sequence of Specials by multiple party members according to Elements that appear in the Top Right corner, and Special Level (1,2,3)
5. So, for a full sequence, you need to do something like a Level 1 Fire Special (Pyra), A Level 2 Water (Nia and Dromarch using ZR or ZL depending on your party order), and a Level 3 Fire again (Pyra). Sometimes you can do two levels on your own if you generate fast enough. Just follow that chart left to right. Youn have a time limit or each stage of the combo.
6. You do not have to perform all three specials in a row one after the other...but once you initiate a Blade Combo, that is the one you are working towards. Any other special will stop the combo and it will not start a new one. You will and should be auto-attacking and using Arts in between Specials for the combo.
7. The third special in the combo will perform a big attack with special affects and seals - More on that if you want to get advanced
8. The only Outliers are Level 4 Specials which are executed on their own outside of a Blade Combo, still using A, and Chain Attacks which also happen outside of combos. Press Start to execute when your party gauge is a full 3 bars. This breaks seals...but that's high level stuff. Just know that these are just sequences of specials you perform all in a row.
Those are the nuts and bolts.
I left out Seals, Bursts, and Break > Smash stuff because most of that is only once you get good.
ETA: The biggest issue, and the one I think the tutorial misses a bit on, is controlling your teammates Specials on battle. Your teammates are fairly smart, they usually switch to an appropriate element for a combo if necessary and can build meter fast (they also tank and heal well).
So - - in Battle, when a teammate is ready to perform a Special with their current Blade (equivalent to you using A with the roman numeral info in the bottom right - Levels 1-4), their picture will appear on the appropriate side of the screen (Left side for the second person in order, right side for the third person) with 3 points of information:
1. The button to use their Special - ZL and ZR respectively
2. The element color of the current blade they have equipped (Blue for Water, Brown for Earth, Purple for Dark and so forth)
3. The Level of the Special they have ready to use - 1-3 glowing orbs that rotate around the picture
This allows you to use the Teammate to either 1) Start a Blade Combo with a Level 1 Special (even if someone has a level 2 ready, if this is the first special it will initiate the combo as a level 1 special) 2) Use a Special to Continue/Finish a Blade Combo
Just tap ZL or ZR to use that characters current Special
That's it. So for a typical battle, I build Special meter by canceling arts to level 1 , use Pyra's Level 1 Special, by that point in time one or both teammates are up and ready if they have an appropriate blade for the second step of a combo initiated with Fire. Usually it's Nia, so I zap ZL when she has two glowing orbs ready...then I start pumping arts to build Pyra's meter back to Level 3 and tap A when I do. Usually it's close. Later in the game it opens up, especially when you get characters who can all have 3 blades and 3 different elements, it's WAY more flexible and starts to make more sense. They made it really hard, actually, by limiting elements and blade counts so much early.
If you are still in Chapter 3, there's a good chance you don't have enough options to build out flexible options, but Fire, Water and Earth combo into each other very well, so just focus on those elements. If you have other blades - Ice and/or Wind make the early game a little easier for building combos.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 11:45 pm to Freauxzen
I’ll use this as a guide when I pick up again. Probably will be a week
Zelda dlc
Zelda dlc
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:44 pm to Freauxzen
Should I pick this up? I'm about to 100% both Mario and Zelda.
I'm a traditional jrpg fan grew up with Chrono, ff6-10, mana, eathbound, and loved persona 4 golden.
I've never played a Xeno game so not sure what to expect.
I'm a traditional jrpg fan grew up with Chrono, ff6-10, mana, eathbound, and loved persona 4 golden.
I've never played a Xeno game so not sure what to expect.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 3:37 pm to musick
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Should I pick this up?
Absolutely yes you should. The game is phenomenal. I am borderline addicted to it right now.
Especially if:
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I'm a traditional jrpg fan grew up with Chrono, ff6-10, mana, eathbound, and loved persona 4 golden.
Then you love it. Jump on in.
Now go answer my Batman hypo I left for you on the movie board.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:20 pm to musick
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Should I pick this up? I'm about to 100% both Mario and Zelda.
I'm a traditional jrpg fan grew up with Chrono, ff6-10, mana, eathbound, and loved persona 4 golden.
I've never played a Xeno game so not sure what to expect.
Yes.
Consider watching the cutscenes for at least Xenoblade 1. I think there's like an hour of them. Not critical, but it helps.
However, just know that it's even more anime than XC1. I said it earlier in this thread, but it pushes my limits as I'm not into anime at all. And there are certainly some Japanese eccentricities throughout. If you can put up with that everything else is rock solid. Great JRPG.
I like the story in XC1 more so far, but I like all of the gameplay elements in this one more. I love the Blade system.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:18 pm to musick
Reading some stuff about the female designs, am I going to be able to play this in front of 2 young daughters and my wife or is it DoA style
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 3:41 pm to musick
I'm in this tonight guys.
Where are you guys at just so I get an idea
Also any tips for a Xeno virgin would be appreciated
Where are you guys at just so I get an idea
Also any tips for a Xeno virgin would be appreciated
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 3:50 pm to musick
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am I going to be able to play this in front of 2 young daughters and my wife
It's a bit much.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 3:51 pm to musick
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Also any tips for a Xeno virgin would be appreciated
I've only played the prologue, and it took me a few hours. It's one of those games. I'll probably jump back into it after the holidays. I'm still trying to finish my second BOTW playthrough, and then I'm playing the Witness next. Then I'll probably jump back into XC2.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 3:58 pm to Meursault
It's not any worse than cidney in FF 15 it those great faeries in BoTW
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:29 pm to musick
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great faeries in BoTW
Haha, yeah I hit them at the wrong time with people in the room.
If that's ok, then I guess Xenoblade is fine.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:30 pm to musick
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Also any tips for a Xeno virgin would be appreciated
See my post on this page about combat ONLY IF IT GETS CONFUSING.
It is a lot to absorb, but when it gets going it makes sense.
Money and Items are in good supply, so don't save too much. And it's super easy to farm money.
Battles will take a bit until you get the hang of it, so just stick with it. Early on, focus on the holy trinity - Attack, Tank, Healer. Don't even consider branching out until Chapter 3.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:02 am to Meursault
There are some strange jokers in this game for sure.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:14 am to FourThreeForty
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There are some strange jokers in this game for sure.
Tora/Poppi?
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:13 pm to FourThreeForty
I love this game. It's amazing. The combat is just perfect.
The ability to switch blades and teammates blades during battle makes the game pretty much infinitely playable. And i love salvaging.
I have no idea how long I've spent salvaging but it's ridiculous.
But you really have to either like or have the ability to overlook the main problem with JRPGs. Because it pushes your boundaries with Japanese ridiculousness.
I really wish this game was more like Pokémon.
You know what now that I think about it that's exactly what this game is.
It's basically is a highly improved game of Pokémon in terms of collection and battles but unfortunately all the Pokémon are obnoxiously drawn females.
I wish they'd make an expansive world game like this. Just drop a Pokémon skin over this game and it'd be amazing.
The ability to switch blades and teammates blades during battle makes the game pretty much infinitely playable. And i love salvaging.
I have no idea how long I've spent salvaging but it's ridiculous.
But you really have to either like or have the ability to overlook the main problem with JRPGs. Because it pushes your boundaries with Japanese ridiculousness.
I really wish this game was more like Pokémon.
You know what now that I think about it that's exactly what this game is.
It's basically is a highly improved game of Pokémon in terms of collection and battles but unfortunately all the Pokémon are obnoxiously drawn females.
I wish they'd make an expansive world game like this. Just drop a Pokémon skin over this game and it'd be amazing.
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 7:06 am
Posted on 12/24/17 at 9:04 am to Breesus
Just got Poppi, loving it so far.
Combat isn't too confusing yet
Combat isn't too confusing yet
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 10:50 am
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