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re: LSU is 9-3 under Ed Orgeron

Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
6460 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:46 pm to
Pretty sure Clemson only has one loss during that time frame
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28709 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:54 pm to
Let's name the teams that miss st has beaten by 30.

Got a feeling you're not going to like the company we share.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28709 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:55 pm to
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m going with 8-4 with an Indy bowl win against Notre Dame


Would jump on that in a heartbeat
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
25298 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:58 pm to
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Lsu has a combined 5 losses since 2016
Every team except Bama, has 5 or more losses.
Sky isn't falling, LSU

9-3? SEC record as a head coach (not interim) with a team that had 4 games under its belt and already coached up.

Can you breakdown the average defensive rankings with an emphasis on run defense and sos for thise wins even as the interim coach?
You'll see why people don't care about those optics that Derek and you are spewing.
The eyeball test says MSU whipped that teams arse to quitting. Then turned around and got whipped by another SEC team. So the excuses of how good MSU is and how they were going to knock off Bama can just stop.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
13886 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:05 pm to
4-8. Book it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
51654 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:28 pm to
The ranking after you play someone doesn't matter at the time you play them. Our loss to them directly affects their ranking after that game. By your logic the celebration of beating the number 1 ranked Florida gators in 1997 never happened because it doesn't matter what a team is ranked when you play them it only matters what they're final ranking is. So by your logic we never beat the number 1 ranked team in the country in 1997.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
51654 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:28 pm to
Ban bet?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
51654 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:32 pm to
Why do you lie Wisconsin wasn't ranked when we played them. You and your agenda driven group don't get to re write rules you don't agree with. Miles faced zero ranked teams last season that's a fact. We beat Florida in 1997 they were ranked number 1, they weren't ranked number 1 after that game and at the end if the year so you're saying we didn't beat the number 1 ranked team but that's not true. Just the other day we talked about Auburn 2014 and you said "they were the 5th ranked team in the country" even though you knew they ended up 8-5 now you're arguing just the opposite. Like always you're talking out of both sides of your mouth and making double standard arguments. Btw that last statement you made is a totally made up fabrication I've never once said any of that. Irony is right you're the liar and what's worse is it's all you do.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 11:53 pm
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17919 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:15 am to
It's not good enough. Should be 12-0. In fact, the offense should have never had to punt. The defense should allow zero points and never allow a first down. Even then, I'm not sure its good enough. It will never be good enough because our coach talks like us.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:18 am to
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Last season O faced 5 ranked teams and had a better record than Miles who faced none


Cite? And didn't they both have two losses?
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4667 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:19 am to
New Head Coach

New staff

Lots of freshmen from a great class

Lsu 3-1

Game coming up Saturday night - maybe we should be looking forward to seeing how the team is getting better

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:39 am to
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Game coming up Saturday night - maybe we should be looking forward to seeing how the team is getting better



We won't learn anything until Florida.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
25298 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:53 am to
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You can make that argument every single year but nobody ever has until now. Even in 2011 6 of our 8 SEC wins came against teams that averaged 2 wins. It's college football not the NFL you're going to play a lot of below average opponents every season just like every top tier team. Last season O faced 5 ranked teams and had a better record than Miles who faced none but you won't ever bring that up. Why don't you drop the agenda look at things objectively and realistically and be a Tiger supporter for once?

Why do you keep talking about 2011? You are sitting spewing Lies. You only looked at their SEC records. The fact is that is all BS because the SEC West was so good it killed other teams. That's 4 wins. Only Ole Miss had a losing record that year and had one of the more difficult SoS.

You are fabricating shite to make what we all know - as much as I hated him, Miles was hands down a better head coach than 12 of the 14 resent SEC head coaches. Had he not had to face arguably the best to ever coach the last 8 years of his career at LSU, he might have a few National Championships including the 2011 title.
Stupid arse argument that I shut down the other day and am shutting it down.
Stop deflecting for a lack of competence with Orgeron spin doctor.
Here is your reminder:
1. The final season rankings for teams they beat included the number 1, 4, 5, 18 and 19 teams.
2. The combined records for those teams were 55-12!
3. The SEC West alone ended up with 3 teams ranked at the end of the season in the top 5! Most impressive of any time I can remember from 1 division of 1 conference.
4. The 2011 team beat the Big East Co-champ in WVU - they had no championship game like the SEC, but did go to the Orange Bowl and WIN. They beat the PAC 12 Champion who won the Rose Bowl and of course won the SEC.
this is equivalent to having played 2 of the 4 playoff teams and beaten them.
For all it did, the best team I saw during the Miles era was the 2006 team that was screwed at AU and UF.
Here endeth the conversation.


Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72103 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:30 am to
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Even in 2011


Toughest schedule played in the history of the program.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:44 am to
So what happens when you are wrong? You going to publicly apologize to O? Admit you were an emotional, ignorant Frick? No, I doubt you do either. People like you never own up.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:46 am to
It won't stop you from shitting on O though
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:48 am to
He has some serious issues
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10782 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:49 am to
O was playing with house money last year, fast and loose with a nothing to lose attitude
Now that he got the job, he's uptight.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:54 am to
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Sky isn't falling, LSU


you are correct. our biggest problems right now are we are deficient on the OL and our fan base is so toxic that it may indeed discourage some recruits. the hatred for coach O is way overblown and the anti's are so vocal as to create an atmosphere of dysfunction where it does not exist. these young men are doing their best and have not gelled yet. expect a tough finish this year.

this program was in a rut with Miles and it will not be changed overnight. the all guard "roadgrater" OL just didn't work w/o the balancing of a good passing game against the top teams. last year, everyone seemed to recognize that but many go so worked up over the job search that they can see nothing else except their hope that coach O fails so they can say "I told you so". they want to fire King, Alleva, O and Grimes and they want it now. these people, imo, are hurting this program. they claim it's "lowered expectations" to be realistic but it seems to me they don't have a clue about the present situation (leading to Miles ousting) and the shape the roster was when it happened. Miles feasted on highly rated skill players that made the overall class ratings look very good but just didn't hack it when signing the "core" of a strong football team; the OL, the QB and the LB's.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
76127 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:54 am to
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