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re: Who has the more diverse, detailed music? Steely Dan vs. Led Zepplin, Beatles, etc

Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:51 am to
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:51 am to
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he Beatles were so much more important than people nowadays realize. Every single was an event. They were frontline for almost a decade.


Why would people not realize it when it gets mentioned ad nauseum on music boards all over the interwebz.

I think that people who want to argue for the Beatles realize -- though they won't admit it -- that their catalog doesn't stand up. Their music has not aged nearly as well as several of their contemporaries. And so they try to make up for this deficiency by seeing how many times they can use the words "influential", "important", or the like. It makes me queasy.

Bottom line: if their songs aren't ever -- and have never been -- included in my regular rotations, then in my book they just aren't that good. I don't care if they focking invented the focking b flat. If the music doesn't hold up, the analysis is over.
Posted by TexTigah81
Member since Nov 2013
558 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:07 pm to
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I think that people who want to argue for the Beatles realize -- though they won't admit it -- that their catalog doesn't stand up. Their music has not aged nearly as well as several of their contemporaries. And so they try to make up for this deficiency by seeing how many times they can use the words "influential", "important", or the like. It makes me queasy.


Bottom line: I realize that everyone has their own personal taste and opinion of music but this is without a doubt the most asinine statement I have ever heard.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20568 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:46 am to
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I think that people who want to argue for the Beatles realize -- though they won't admit it -- that their catalog doesn't stand up


Going to have to strongly disagree with this assertion. The Beatles are so diverse that they have at least something that holds up for everyone. Well almost everyone
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90947 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 1:20 pm to
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I think that people who want to argue for the Beatles realize -- though they won't admit it -- that their catalog doesn't stand up.


Laughably, provably wrong. Beatles songs are still referenced in lyrics, used in film and ads - probably at a greater clip than any 2 or 3 other artists combined. This is 2017 and there hasn't been "Beatles" in 47 years.

The very definition of "standing up" over time.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 11:03 pm to
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I think that people who want to argue for the Beatles realize -- though they won't admit it -- that their catalog doesn't stand up.


This has got to be the most obvious Devil's Advocate argument in the history of planet Earth. There's a reason the Beatles are TO THIS DAY the biggest-selling musical act in the history of popular music. June 2017, 50th anniversary of Sgt Pepper, I believe the album reached top 10 or maybe 1 again on the album charts due to the commemoration of that seminal album in music history. The music greats from Michael Jackson to Prince to Madonna to The Bangles to even Katy Perry(who's covered Hey Jude live in her concerts), etc cite them as an influence and their music continues to be played immensely on classic hits radio to this day. Essentially all of popular music's advancements and progression in terms of melody, diversity, and lyrical composition is basically attributed to their massive influence on the profession through what they created and elevated in terms of improving on the design that Chuck Berry and Little Richard started.
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