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re: Left is so mad at Trump calling out the alt left
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:16 pm to goldennugget
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:16 pm to goldennugget
Same people didnt care when BLM was invited to the white house and part of Democrat party campaigned even after police died.
Obama called out police after that still and called the shootings isolated events. But the media didn't care.
Obama called out police after that still and called the shootings isolated events. But the media didn't care.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:18 pm to Hawkeye95
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it is not, they are leftist anarchists
that is communism
the only way that they're "anarchists" is they believe in teh destruction of the state as it exists now, b/c i reflects western values
they want to rebuild that state into a collectivist, classless society. that is communism (almost literally)
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:19 pm to Hawkeye95
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They are anti fascists. you might not like their techniques but that is there stated goal
I can call myself the king of England but that doesn't make it so. Antifa are fascists
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:22 pm to Hawkeye95
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Can you link me to antifa's website
i can link you to an affiliate that helps organize most of their rallies
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Today, an understanding of structural racism and how white supremacy is woven into the fabric of the U.S. is essentially a requirement to do this work. If a person with these simplistic views wanted to get involved in antifa circles, we would help them develop a deeper critique before we could closely work with them. Similarly, we can’t think of anyone currently in our circles who does not oppose capitalism. In the recent past there has been the occasional person with sympathies for capitalism who has participated; generally they don’t hang around for long.
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If the author had more closely read NYC Antifa’s webpage, they would see a constant stress on opposition to capitalism and the nation-state.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that is communism
Actually it could be communism, it could be something else. SOme of those anarchists want to completely eliminate civilization. SERIOUS.
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they want to rebuild that state into a collectivist, classless society. that is communism (almost literally)
I am sure some of them are actual communists. But there are a lot of anarchists that won't state what the end state should be.
The far left all hates each other, and they quibble constantly. It isn't a real opposition by any means.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:23 pm to Hawkeye95
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No, he certainly did invalidate it by saying both sides are the same.
why can't we blame both?
what is logically inconsistent with blaming violent groups on both sides of the aisle?
i blame both. i disavow both. i condemn both.
it's not difficult to do so
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:24 pm to Hawkeye95
Walt.. you beleive that antifa is not fascist? Lmfao
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:26 pm to Hawkeye95
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I am sure some of them are actual communists. But there are a lot of anarchists that won't state what the end state should be.
The far left all hates each other, and they quibble constantly. It isn't a real opposition by any means.
the only thing that is consistent in their current form is the belief in intersectional oppression, namely racism
why? that's the boogeyman they've created for an extremist right wing that is not nearly as powerful as it actually exists in reality. their movement means nothing if they promote accurate statements and in order to gain traction and meaning, they rely on anti-fascist narratives that are based in intersectionality
they're cultural Marxists who pretty much exclusively attack capitalism
they use violence to silence speech and are clearly authoritarians, which is the exact opposite of "anarchist"
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why can't we blame both?
one side drove a car into a crowd killing a young woman.
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what is logically inconsistent with blaming violent groups on both sides of the aisle?
Only one side killed someone
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i blame both. i disavow both. i condemn both.
I certainly disavow both. But frick, I blame the neonazi who drove his car into the crowd for the death.
The optics on this are terrible for trump. I am absolutely flabbergasted that you can't see this. ANTIFA is a bunch of thugs but they didn't kill anyone on saturday. The neo nazis did.
I actually thought he made the right move on saturday, and fricked up yesterday. But he really fricked up by going back to "both sides" today. Just retarded.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
I would love to ask Ben Carson who he would fear more the KKK or ANTIFA.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:31 pm to Hawkeye95
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one side drove a car into a crowd killing a young woman.
no. one person did that
if you want to play group association, BLM is worse than Nazis. does that make you feel better? it shouldn't
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Only one side killed someone
you're reaching BamaAtl levels here. seriously think about what you're saying
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But frick, I blame the neonazi who drove his car into the crowd for the death.
i do too. you can blame him for the death without condemning those who were not violent
same as you can condemn the pieces of shite who killed in the name of BLM without condemning BLM
or condemning ANTIFA-type organizations who engage in violence without blaming the actually peaceful leftist groups
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:31 pm to Hawkeye95
So if they didn't die it would be OK? Getting bricks and pad locks to the head is perfectly acceptable because someone didnt die yet... killing innocent police officers was OK for BLM because some cops fearing for their own lives shot suspects.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:33 pm to Hawkeye95
By your own argument that means all muslims are evil too right?
Or maybe just maybe some people have their own view of the world. Its ok to have your own beliefs in this country.
Or maybe just maybe some people have their own view of the world. Its ok to have your own beliefs in this country.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:34 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Oh really?
I blame the neonazi who drove his car into the crowd for the death.
OK. Then what did the President need to speak about hate groups for in the first place then?
I mean, is there some evidence that anyone else in that crowd was responsible for the a-hole in the car?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:51 pm to Hawkeye95
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Can you link me to antifa's website where it outlines their positions? A policy document? Or just a general sketch of their beliefs.
I mean, you presented the assertion that they are "anarchists". Can you link to specific evidence of their belief in and practice of "anarchy" in their daily lives?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:54 pm to Hawkeye95
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don't support their techniques, or tactics but their strategy is not forcible suppression of the opposition
You're a fricking imbecile
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:55 pm to Hawkeye95
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Dude, their name is "antifascists" shortened.
They are anti fascists. you might not like their techniques but that is there stated goal.
Well if they call themselves anti fascists!
Seriously you have to have an IQ south of 75.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:56 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Well I'm sorry. This is just false.
one side drove a car into a crowd killing a young woman.
Use better English.
quote:See above
Only one side killed someone
quote:FINALLY got it correct.
I certainly disavow both. But frick, I blame the neonazi who drove his car into the crowd for the death.
1 out of 3 ain't bad I suppose for a hack.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:57 pm to goldennugget
Yeah I'm sorry, but one psycho alt-righter driving his car into a crowd doesn't magically make Antifa anything different than what they've been all along, which is violent, Marxist radicals. But the media effort is a full on blitz to paint the radical leftists as something less than reprehensible by playing up this one incident.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 5:58 pm
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