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re: Historical monuments okay or not
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:34 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:34 pm to beerJeep
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Slavery was completely normal then. You're letting your current world opinion on slavery cloud your judgement.
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Slavery was completely normal then. You're letting your current world opinion on slavery cloud your judgement.
Well this simply isn't correct at all. Slavery wasn't "normal" in the U.S. and had reached a tipping point by the time of the war.
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What does taking the statues down do to better the African American community?
You got it backwards. It's helping the white community.
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Is it just a feel good sentiment? If so, why not take down all slave owners statues?
As I've already said: we judge people and their actions based on context. It's perfectly reasonable for the state to memorialize someone for their extraordinary deeds and then in books and museums make a record of their life that presents a fuller picture. A statue of Thomas Jefferson is not an endorsement of slavery any more than a statue of Ali is and endorsement of Islam. South Carolina has a statue of George Rogers outside our stadium, do you think we're celebrating his time with the Gamecocks and his Heisman trophy or do you think we're celebrating his arrest for the purchase of crack cocaine? Do you believe it's possible to separate the two?
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:44 pm to WheelRoute
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Well this simply isn't correct at all. Slavery wasn't "normal" in the U.S. and had reached a tipping point by the time of the war.
Why put a limit on where it was normal?on a macro scale, It was normal world wide at the time and practiced in plenty of areas. On a micro scale, if was common in the south as it was still the primary source of agriculture. The industrialization of agricultural would have ended slavery with or without the Civil War.
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You got it backwards. It's helping the white community.
Elaborate please.
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Do you believe it's possible to separate the two?
Absolutely. Can the anti monument people separate the two? You can immortalize generals such as Robert e lee based on his character and his military accomplishments and not immortalize his tacit support of the institution of slavery. After all, in every first hand account I've read on both the union and confederate side, Lee was respected and thought highly of. Post war memoirs as well as pre war memoirs state as such.
If the men who fought general lee can separate the two, why can't we? Tearing down statues of men you don't agree with based on today's moral standards is wrong.
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