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re: Orgeron's trajectory since Ole Miss is super positive
Posted on 7/29/17 at 3:50 am to la_birdman
Posted on 7/29/17 at 3:50 am to la_birdman
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Whoa there. He won a national championship, got to another, (feel about that as you may) but are you seriously suggesting he did it out of "luck?" Or something close to that?
Yeah, with Nick Saban's players and still had to get extremely lucky to back his way into that national championship game. Not to mention that he should have at least won one in 2006, the year before 2007 as well. Moreover, he blew another opportunity in 2011. Hence, that's why I say, had we had a decent head coach other than Les Miles, we probably would have won at least two more national championships if not more.
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He had his faults but give credit when it's due, if you are being honest.
I'm not the only one that feels that way, outside of the Les Miles fan club, Les is like the plague and no one wants to touch him with a ten-foot pole and even with that fabulous won/loss record at LSU. That's because everyone knows that fabulous won/loss record at LSU is a testament to the strength of the LSU football program and not a testament to Les Miles. Meanwhile, I can't say that I blame them either.
If I want to give credit where credit is due, the credit goes to the assistant coaches who held their noses coaching for Les Miles.
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Posted on 7/29/17 at 9:15 am to Space Cowboy
quote:You mean 2005, his very first season where you could tell immediately he was scared to death to inherit the team and make it his own, even the players said so back then. That they weren't sure about this guy and that they needed him to get behind them. He knew it was Saban's players and was just very apprehensive. Even so, he is blowing out Tennessee in the first half in LSU's first game after Katrina and collapses badly in the second half against a Clausen led comeback for Tennessee, a player that transferred from LSU because he wasn't any good.
Not to mention that he should have won one at least in 2006,
but LSU goes on to blow out everybody else that season enroute to the SECCG against Georgia who was scared to death of LSU and they lose badly to these people. Saban would have easily won his second NC that year.
This post was edited on 7/29/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:36 am to Space Cowboy
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Yeah, with Nick Saban's players and still had to get extremely lucky to back his way into that national championship game. Not to mention that he should have at least won one in 2006, the year before 2007 as well. Moreover, he blew another opportunity in 2011. Hence, that's why I say, had we had a decent head coach other than Les Miles, we probably would have won at least two more national championships if not more.
Post's like this just piss me off.
You're calling everybody Mile's arse lickers but you constantly go out of your way to twist facts to act like the guy wasn't a good coach.
Listen, go get your Saban pic and jerk off to it and shut the frick up.
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Yeah, with Nick Saban's players
Saban won a title in '09 with shula's players then. Eat a dick for always trying to use this an some kind of exuse.
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Not to mention that he should have at least won one in 2006,
Did Miles fumble against Florida? Nope, pretty sure that was Jamarcus Russel. I wanted him to play Flynn but would that have mattered, maybe, maybe not.
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Moreover, he blew another opportunity in 2011
Yeah, maybe, but LSU should never have had to play a team in their division that they beat on the road. Put that on the BCS.
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had we had a decent head coach other than Les Miles, we probably would have won at least two more national championships if not more.
Yeah and if Perilloux gets his shite straight LSU doesn't spend 4 years in qb purgatory and Miles doesn't get gunshy about letting his qbs play.
Who was LSU gonna have? What coach was going to be at LSU that could have beaten Saban consistently since '09. (Baman's first title year under Saban.)
As you may be aware, only 2 coaches have beaten Saban twice, neither coaches in the SEC anymore.
Urban probably has beaten him more than twice too, to lazy to check, but Urban was never gonna be at LSU either.
And watch what happens to your boy jimbo when fl st lines up against bama in a month.
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