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De-policing the new normal
Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:56 pm
It's hard to have legitimate law and order (and even legitimate LEO's in certain places like Balch Springs) when there work environment is made so hostile. There is not a "policing problem"; it is the gradual decline in respect for authority which is slowly eradicating our society.
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FBI report finds officers ‘de-policing’ as anti-cop hostility becomes ‘new norm’
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An unclassified FBI study on last year’s cop-killing spree found officers are “de-policing” amid concerns that anti-police defiance fueled in part by movements like Black Lives Matter has become the “new norm.” “Departments — and individual officers — have increasingly made the decision to stop engaging in proactive policing,” said the report by the FBI Office of Partner Engagement obtained by The Washington Times. The report, “Assailant Study — Mindsets and Behaviors,” said that the social-justice movement sparked by the 2014 death of 18-year-old Michael Brown at the hands of an officer in Ferguson, Missouri, “made it socially acceptable to challenge and discredit the actions of law enforcement.”
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The report also found that the trend toward drug decriminalization and reduced sentencing had emboldened perpetrators, making them believe that “consequences no longer exist for criminal acts, especially drug offenses.” “Across the country, law enforcement link the decriminalization of drugs to the increase in violent attacks on law enforcement,” said the study. Such factors have “had the effect of ‘de-policing’ in law enforcement agencies across the country, which assailants have exploited.” The report cited an example in which an officer was slammed to the ground and beaten but refused to shoot the assailant “for fear of community backlash.” “The officer informed the superintendent that the officer chose not to shoot because the officer didn’t want his/her ‘family or department to have to go through the scrutiny the next day on the national news,’” said the study.
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:06 pm to PoundFoolish
I honestly think that given the status of police relations in black communities, it may be better to reduce policing and just mop up the mess. They will either embrace the lawlessness or they will beg for more policing. Either way, it's a win.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:09 pm to PoundFoolish
I see it from both sides. We absolutely need to enforce the law and the police putting themselves out there on the line deserve our upmost respect.
When the police industry has declared war on the rest of us there's a problem. Things like civil asset forfeiture turns them from being tre good guys to being the bad guys. Of course respect for the badge and the law diminishes when law enforcement is doing shite like that.
When the police industry has declared war on the rest of us there's a problem. Things like civil asset forfeiture turns them from being tre good guys to being the bad guys. Of course respect for the badge and the law diminishes when law enforcement is doing shite like that.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:11 pm to LSUwag
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I honestly think that given the status of police relations in black communities, it may be better to reduce policing and just mop up the mess. They will either embrace the lawlessness or they will beg for more policing. Either way, it's a win.
This would mean abandoning some legitimately good people who live in those communities. I realize that it's a no-win situation, but the answer is not complete martial law in certain areas; the answer is fewer social welfare benefits and more pressure on accountability for family responsibility. This means acknowledging a truth that a lot of people willfully ignore: the innate inequality/limitations of certain people and the ingrained cultural pathology of certain demographics.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:14 pm to PoundFoolish
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There is not a "policing problem"; it is the gradual decline in respect for authority which is slowly eradicating our society.
There is also a gradual decline by police in respect for citizens' constitutional rights. People today, of all walks of life, fear police. When the North Charleston cop who killed Walter Scott can't even get convicted of manslaughter when there's video evidence of it, why should the public have any respect for a department who, despite being employed to protect and serve, are the quickest to take your life?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:18 pm to SCLibertarian
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There is also a gradual decline by police in respect for citizens' constitutional rights
Disagree
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People today, of all walks of life, fear police.
Not all . . . criminals, yes.
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When the North Charleston cop who killed Walter Scott can't even get convicted of manslaughter when there's video evidence of it, why should the public have any respect for a department who, despite being employed to protect and serve, are the quickest to take your life?
Slagle didn't get convicted because the retard prosecutors who, true to form, charged him with murder one when there was no way they were going to get that. He was at fault, yes, but, like the Balch Springs case, it's not murder because there's never the criminal intent to take a life, only gross negligence.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:20 pm to DavidTheGnome
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like civil asset forfeiture
Legal stealing
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:23 pm to SCLibertarian
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There is also a gradual decline by police in respect for citizens' constitutional rights.
This is bullshite. Constitutional rights are enforced today at a stricter level than at any point in history. There is greater publicity for the exceptions, but it is an extreme rarity.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Constitutional rights are enforced today at a stricter level than at any point in history. There is greater publicity for the exceptions, but it is an extreme rarity.
Hell, where else but in America could a twice convicted pedophile, repeat-offender felon who blatantly resisted arrest and suffered the consequences become a Civil Rights case?
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:34 pm to PoundFoolish
I have a lot of issues with the police, but my issues are generally academic, as I am a privileged white male with minimal bad experiences with law enforcement.
Civil asset forfeiture is probably the most un-american thing going on in this country right now. I have asked many attorney friends to explain how it is legal and none can.
Basically, the people mostly affected are on the margins of society and unable to fight the system.
My assets would stay seized for about 5 minutes.
Civil asset forfeiture is probably the most un-american thing going on in this country right now. I have asked many attorney friends to explain how it is legal and none can.
Basically, the people mostly affected are on the margins of society and unable to fight the system.
My assets would stay seized for about 5 minutes.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 6:11 pm to SCLibertarian
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There is also a gradual decline by police in respect for citizens' constitutional rights.
That is total BS.
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