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re: Ruby Ridge? Did the US Government Do the Right Thing?
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:06 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:06 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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One of those is Ruby Ridge.
What forced their hand on escalating the siege?
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Looking at this event, I can't decide who was right.
Weaver is no saint. These folks rarely are (see the Bundys). But, he was singled out, targeted, then made an example of (under a Republican administration, I will be quick to point out, just as Waco was initiated under that same president.)
And the consequences are horrific when you think back to how things went down. It was the "preview" for Waco. As far as Waco, again, Koresh was no saint either, but the feds hamfisted (IMHO) efforts resulted in a horrific loss of life - their own and innocent children. And so easily avoidable if rational heads had prevailed.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 7:07 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:07 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Ruby Ridge was wrong in so many ways.
Waco was surreal wrong...
Waco was surreal wrong...
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:12 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Did the US Government Do the Right Thing?
No, they screwed up.
Weaver failed to appear, so the Marshals had a right to go get him and bring him in. However, the response was so over the top heavy handed. Very wrong.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:38 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Are you seriously asking if the Feds did the right thing shooting a woman while she help her baby?
Or are you asking if it was the right thing when a 14 year old boy got shot and died?
Or are you asking if it was the right thing because this was done against white conservatives and not a black family?
All of this shite went down in the first couple of days if memory serves me right. Also, in the end Randy Weaver (who I have met when I lived in Iowa - he lives in a small town there) and I think everyone else ended up with acquittals on everything that happened except the original failure to appear.
No the government did not do the right thing.
Or are you asking if it was the right thing when a 14 year old boy got shot and died?
Or are you asking if it was the right thing because this was done against white conservatives and not a black family?
All of this shite went down in the first couple of days if memory serves me right. Also, in the end Randy Weaver (who I have met when I lived in Iowa - he lives in a small town there) and I think everyone else ended up with acquittals on everything that happened except the original failure to appear.
No the government did not do the right thing.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:58 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I think there's a general consensus that, operationally, it was a shitshow.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:34 am to PurpleandGold Motown
The barrel was only 1/4" shorter than legal.
The government paid them $3.1 million.
There ya go.
The government paid them $3.1 million.
There ya go.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 5:01 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Waco and Ruby Ridge, brought to you by Bubba Clinton.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:15 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
AKA you just watched the Oklahoma City documentary on Netflix.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:02 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Randy Weaver's daughter speaks about the incident: LINK
Basically, she rehashes a lot of what we already know. The FBI killed their dog first. This pissed off her dad, Randy, who told his son to fire back. So he did (no one was hit). From there the stand-off and escalation happened.
Randy himself was a former Special Forces operator and a white separatist. He was one of those apocalyptic people who believed the New World Order was going to form at any time and take over America. A white supremacist group tried to recruit him (a bunch of those guys in Idaho) but he refused to join.
While a bit kooky, he moved out in the middle of nowhere Idaho to be left alone.
Basically, she rehashes a lot of what we already know. The FBI killed their dog first. This pissed off her dad, Randy, who told his son to fire back. So he did (no one was hit). From there the stand-off and escalation happened.
Randy himself was a former Special Forces operator and a white separatist. He was one of those apocalyptic people who believed the New World Order was going to form at any time and take over America. A white supremacist group tried to recruit him (a bunch of those guys in Idaho) but he refused to join.
While a bit kooky, he moved out in the middle of nowhere Idaho to be left alone.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:14 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:by a nose.
Feds prob screwed up
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:27 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Seriously, incredible criminal actions by the fed who initiated the entire thing from the entrapment to murdering the children
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