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re: Texas AG sued to keep a Bible quote in school. Now he’s troubled by Muslim prayers.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:03 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:03 pm to buckeye_vol
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materially and substantially interfere[d] with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school
And getting up in the middle of class to pray does nto violate this? Hmmmm.....I wonder how this conversation would go if it were Christians wanting to walk out of class to pray? Oh. WAIT! You wouldn't like it even if they only did it during free period!
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Sacrificing a chicken would clearly be inappropriate.
True. But, appropriateness is in the eye of the beholder. It is perfectly logical and appropriate to a student that practices voodoo.
I mean, do you consider it appropriate for students to walk out of classes to pray?
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It was their free time! You are just being obtuse, now. It was fre time, that the students decided they wanted to pray.
It was their STUDY hall, but they weren't just praying, they were singing songs, etc. You could argue that should be acceptable (should have kept the lawsuit going), but it's not a required practice, and at some point the sheer size plays a role.
A study hall in which other students were reading, texting, playing games etc. And as for their singing...the article clearly states they went away from the other students to keep from being bothered or from bothering anyone else.
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but it's not a required practice, and at some point the sheer size plays a role.
1. If you believe this, then you do not understand Christianity. Corporal worship, meeting together, worshiping God, reading the Bible, Praying are all required of Christians. (Doesn't mean all Christians do it. But I would be willing all Muslims do not pray 5 times a day.) Sheer numbers do not mean a school sponsors something. If 100s of students began rioting in the school, would you say that is a school sanctioned/sponsored event?
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I'm saying that when it became that size, it became something that was not a private display, but a very public display.
Again. They went to a separate area of the school. 10 students getting up in the middle of class to pray would be a pretty public display, wouldn't you think? I mean, how many students are there in a typical classroom these days?
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Maybe the school was wrong, but it's not the same as a required religious practice. Besides, you're comparing one school to another, as if this means all schools are banning Christians and allowing Muslims to pray.
It is more common that what you are thinking. Would you like for me to find more links to Muslims being able to pray with full school knowledge and acceptance?
Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:15 pm to DawgsLife
Muslim prayer rooms public schools
Maryland
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/muslim-students-pray-school-maryland_n_2583118.html
Michigan (2-3 cities)
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/06/06/muslim-group-cair-has-hijacked-michigan-school-system-74914
Minnesota
https://theextract.net/2016/03/25/minnesota-district-restores-prayer-to-public-school-but-only-for-muslim-students/
New York
https://rense.com/general17/NYCoksprayer.htm
And it goes on. here is what is happening in the UK after accomodating Muslims there:
Muslims in some other nations have made increasingly insistent and taxing demands on public schools after lesser demands have been met. In the United Kingdom, the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) released a 72-page document in 2007 calling for state schools to "remove unnecessary barriers to full participation" for Muslim students in primary and secondary school.
Besides footbaths and prayer rooms, the document asks that schools provide halal food, allow for Muslim traditional dress in the uniform policy, offer Arabic instruction for Muslim students, and eliminate all coeducational sports. MCB would also like schools to allow Muslim students to opt out of activities and curriculum requirements involving music, dance, or drama. Schools should avoid scheduling sex education lessons during Ramadan, as well as swimming lessons (because if students swallow water in the pool they will break their Ramadan fast).
https://eagleforum.org/educate/2008/feb08/muslim-students.html
Maryland
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/muslim-students-pray-school-maryland_n_2583118.html
Michigan (2-3 cities)
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/06/06/muslim-group-cair-has-hijacked-michigan-school-system-74914
Minnesota
https://theextract.net/2016/03/25/minnesota-district-restores-prayer-to-public-school-but-only-for-muslim-students/
New York
https://rense.com/general17/NYCoksprayer.htm
And it goes on. here is what is happening in the UK after accomodating Muslims there:
Muslims in some other nations have made increasingly insistent and taxing demands on public schools after lesser demands have been met. In the United Kingdom, the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) released a 72-page document in 2007 calling for state schools to "remove unnecessary barriers to full participation" for Muslim students in primary and secondary school.
Besides footbaths and prayer rooms, the document asks that schools provide halal food, allow for Muslim traditional dress in the uniform policy, offer Arabic instruction for Muslim students, and eliminate all coeducational sports. MCB would also like schools to allow Muslim students to opt out of activities and curriculum requirements involving music, dance, or drama. Schools should avoid scheduling sex education lessons during Ramadan, as well as swimming lessons (because if students swallow water in the pool they will break their Ramadan fast).
https://eagleforum.org/educate/2008/feb08/muslim-students.html
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