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re: Your federal hiring freeze at work
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:02 am to The Spleen
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:02 am to The Spleen
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Are you an anarchist?
In a perfect world, absolutely.
In this world, I'm simply a fan of people handling their own business without my help unless I volunteer it.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:10 am to roadGator
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This is an opportunity for liberals to step up and create a charity to fund child care services for our military folks.
Do it. I'll donate.
I think you are just being bitchy though. You actually don't care enough to take any action save for bitching on a website.
If I'm wrong, send me the donate link.
So if your political enemies do something first, you'll donate, but if they don't you're gonna point the finger at the lack of charity? What a waste of space you must be.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:11 am to LSU316
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I'd like to see a breakdown of everything that soldiers are given while stationed on a base over seas. I'd be interested to know what that + salary is and how it relates to the average income in the private sector in the States....I'm sure it's at least equal and I'd bet that service men and women are ahead of the curve.
What private sector job would you compare it to? There is not a private sector job that you can't quit to begin with...most folks in the military can't just say "frick it, I quit" and walk away from their job without any notice....that is illegal for most military people.
Also very few private sector jobs where you are on call 24 hours a day 7 days a week until your employer hands you a piece of paper saying you aren't on call 24-7.
Finally very few private sector jobs where your employer expects you to sacrifice your life to get your job done. Military folks aren't supposed to die on the job but when they do it is understood that it is part of the job.
Yes, military people have some serious perks....but none that the military doesn't measure very well against rentention and recruitment...they aren't just slinging shite at soldiers to get them in and keep them in....
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:12 am to Ebbandflow
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So if your political enemies do something first
Enemies? And you want to talk about wasted space? LOL
I'll help support the charity he starts. I can appreciate action over words. However, just like you, I don't believe he cares enough to actually take action. He would rather wait on mommy government to act on his behalf but still hold onto the higher moral ground.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:13 am to skrayper
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It's in Germany, you dip shite. Where are they going to send them?
I will bet y'all any amount of money y'all care to bet that the solution will be reimbursement for on the economy day care. It will be much more expensive but we aren't talking about a budget cut we are talking about a hiring freeze....and German day cares and schools will take ANY child it doesn't matter if they are in country under the SOFA or not...it will take a while to set the system in place but that is going to be the fix...
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:17 am to germandawg
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the solution will be reimbursement for on the economy day care.
Unfortunately you are correct.
I'm sure the public will be convince by the government that it is a good thing though.
While I think defense spending cuts should be down the list like I said earlier....I don't think anyone here will, or should, debate the fact that our military spending and efficiency is out of control in numerous areas.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:21 am to LSU316
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While I think defense spending cuts should be down the list like I said earlier....I don't think anyone here will, or should, debate the fact that our military spending and efficiency is out of control in numerous areas.
It is and it is always people who take the hit, never programs or systems but people....and people are what make the Military what it is.
There is SO MUCH that could be done to make the military more efficient that would not create any where near the problems that shutting down CYS will....but shutting down CYS only effects young enlisted and young officers with families so frick them....they don't matter....even though it is the senior enlisted folks who make the military work and those people were, once upon a time, young enlisted folks....
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:21 am to germandawg
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What private sector job would you compare it to? There is not a private sector job that you can't quit to begin with...most folks in the military can't just say "frick it, I quit" and walk away from their job without any notice....that is illegal for most military people. Also very few private sector jobs where you are on call 24 hours a day 7 days a week until your employer hands you a piece of paper saying you aren't on call 24-7. Finally very few private sector jobs where your employer expects you to sacrifice your life to get your job done. Military folks aren't supposed to die on the job but when they do it is understood that it is part of the job. Yes, military people have some serious perks....but none that the military doesn't measure very well against rentention and recruitment...they aren't just slinging shite at soldiers to get them in and keep them in....
So the last I checked the last time a draft was instituted was a long time ago. These people know what they are getting into...they also know what they can do in the private sector.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:23 am to germandawg
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it is always people who take the hit
This is true for the great majority of government programs....for the brightest shining example just simply look to that large clusterfrick known as Obamacare.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:26 am to LSU316
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So the last I checked the last time a draft was instituted was a long time ago. These people know what they are getting into...they also know what they can do in the private sector.
I agree 100%...but what they were getting into this time last year was a military which would provide some day care services for their children when they were overseas. Going forward it may become much more difficult to recruit as high a caliber folks if there sren't those kinds of perks.
This is something that makes no sense about Trump's campaign promises....you can't make the military stronger by both cutting spending on people and increasing spending on programs and systems...because people HAVE to be involved in those programs and systems....if, for example, we are going to upgrade our nuclear arsenal we are either going to have to hire civilians, civilian contractor personnel or more military people....it ain't going to happen without people and money.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:34 am to bamarep
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If you can't afford kids, DON'T frickING HAVE THEM!
Calm down little buddy. 99% of the world can't truly afford kids. We all do our best to survive.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:41 am to DoubleDown
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If you can't afford kids, DON'T frickING HAVE THEM!
Calm down little buddy. 99% of the world can't truly afford kids. We all do our best to survive.
I hear this all the time from the right but if we took this advice...and it is sound advice...very few of us would be here LOL....my parents couldn't afford my sisters and myself and my wife and I can't afford the 2 we have and our household income is in the top 6 or so % in the nation.....kids are EXPENSIVE....
We are not here to make money and buy shite....we are here to procreate...at any cost...all that we do from art to commerce to war is about fricking and making more of US....it is the basic nature of mankind that we all share....everything else is culture and societal....affording kids means having them and providing them with enough food, shelter and protection as needed until they too can make babies....that food, shelter and protection doesn't have to be as fine as we think is a minimum in the US....we have raised kids on much less and in much worse conditions than we do today....
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:44 am to germandawg
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I hear this all the time from the right but if we took this advice...and it is sound advice...very few of us would be here LOL....my parents couldn't afford my sisters and myself and my wife and I can't afford the 2 we have and our household income is in the top 6 or so % in the nation.....kids are EXPENSIVE....
Correct. My wife and I make over 125k a year and struggle financially with our 2 kids. Now, we aren't eating ramen noodles or dog food but I laugh when I here dumbasses say "If you can't afford em, don't have em". Get a clue. Kids are expensive as shite. Most of us pay more in taxes on formula and diapers in 1 year than these little shite sippers not having kids spouting this nonsense do in 10 years.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:47 am to germandawg
quote:Agreed.
But again, frick 'em...if the military had needed for them to have a family they would have issued them one
I've posted many times on here that military personnel sehouldnt be allowed to get married until they finish their first tour or reach E-5 and should require their commanding officer's permission.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
Can we go ahead and start shutting down Wiesbaden base completely?
No more day care issue and we can use the personnel elsewhere.
No more day care issue and we can use the personnel elsewhere.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
Maybe if these deadbeat moms got a job they could afford daycare like the rest of us.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:56 am to DoubleDown
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Most of us pay more in taxes on formula and diapers in 1 year
Still your problem, not mine.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:58 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Still your problem, not mine.
True. Not trying to make it yours but I understand the OPs issue. Surely you can as well, albeit his problem, not yours.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:58 am to DoubleDown
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Correct. My wife and I make over 125k a year and struggle financially with our 2 kids. Now, we aren't eating ramen noodles or dog food but I laugh when I here dumbasses say "If you can't afford em, don't have em". Get a clue. Kids are expensive as shite. Most of us pay more in taxes on formula and diapers in 1 year than these little shite sippers not having kids spouting this nonsense do in 10 years.
This is the way of the United States...it is the largest part of the American dream...having a family even though it means struggling and sacrificing. And what do we get for our trouble? About 8 and maybe 10 years of undying love and devotion and then the little shits move out and won't even answer the damn phone when you call to see about the grandkids....unless they need something LOL.
It is good advice to wait until you can afford kids the problem is that most people are no longer fertile or even sexually active by the time they have enough job experience to be earning enough to "afford" a kid...the species would cease to exist if we relied on rationale and logic to have kids because it is irrational and illogical to the point of absurdity to do so...
This is one are where we differ from other animals. In times of food shortages and drought most animals will not breed as readily as they will in time of plenty...and most daddy's outside of humans will devour their kids under ideal circumstances....let there be a lack of food and water and all of a sudden the baby is the quickest solution to the first item on that list! Our higher brains do not allow for this, thank God, and so we are faced with having to raise the little buggers no matter how bad times get....and to do so for at least 6 or so years because even under the most horrific of circumstances baby humans are not able to survive on their own before they are 6 or so or at least old enough to work the fricking remote control on their own!
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:59 am to Crow Pie
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Maybe if these deadbeat moms got a job they could afford daycare like the rest of us.
You're right, with the two-three month heads up on where you will be living for a 36 month tour find employment that is flexible enough to always be home when your husband is away in the field/longer training period/deployment.
Should be easy, especially when the military sends people to bustling metropolises like Lawton, OK, Jacksonville, NC, Fort Drum, NY, and Okinawa.
I'm not defending octomoms, but you are uninformed.
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