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re: How long before johnny jones packs his bag...
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:31 am to Choupique19
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:31 am to Choupique19
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This may be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this board. "Well he's an LSU alumni, so his failure to put his players in a position to win is fine by me."
You're reading comprehension sucks. Him being alumni matters to me and LSU people. If you don't think it matters then you have no stake in the program anyway. It's the whole reason he is here. To toss that aside and say it doesn't make a difference now is just stupid.
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Quick trigger? He's been here for 5 years now and his claim to fame is blowing a 20 point lead in the first round of the NCAA tournament in his only appearance
Once again, you don't get it. Trent Johnson had two straight losing seasons (11-20 in both), he didn't get fired. He was given a 3rd year, bolted to TCU and left LSU in a shithole. Jones came back, after the University had thrown him the wolves, and took a low ball offer to rebuild the program. He hasn't had a losing season since. So yes, why the quick trigger to get rid of Jones now?
Btw, here is Jones' resume (LINK ). I believe it's pretty damn impressive and I'm glad he represents this University. That's why I don't lose my shite after every loss and try to run him out of town. But go ahead and keep running him down. I'm going to keep defending him though..
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:11 am to brmark70816
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Him being alumni matters to me and LSU people. If you don't think it matters then you have no stake in the program anyway. It's the whole reason he is here.
And the worst possible excuse to hire an unqualified head coach. Nick Saban isn't an Alabama alumn. Coach K isn't a Duke alumn. Skip Bertman wasn't a LSU alumn. What matters as a head coach is does your team perform well. When that answer is a resounding "no", you should be fired.
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Trent Johnson had two straight losing seasons (11-20 in both), he didn't get fired. He was given a 3rd year, bolted to TCU and left LSU in a shithole
Trent Johnson won a SEC title and had LSU in the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament playing toe to toe for 35 minutes with the eventual national champions. When his teams started failing, he saw the writing on the wall and left on his own.
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Btw, here is Jones' resume (LINK ). I believe it's pretty damn impressive
Wow, 15 years as a head coach in Division 1 basketball and a whopping 2 NCAA tournament trips with zero wins. The guy is way in over his head and if you can't see that after the last 14 months of LSU basketball then you have no clue about basketball.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:13 am to brmark70816
Look the blind loyalty is admirable, but the facts are the facts. Jones was a barely above .500 at North Texas in the sunbelt. If LSU wasn't on his degree, he wouldn't be here now. This is year 5, any roster deficiencies at this point are squarely on the guy who's only strength is supposed to be recruiting. 5 yrs 1tournament appearance, which they blew a huge lead, and no wins. The sec is so bad right now and we can't capitalize on it because of coaching ineptitude.
Watching the game on tv yesterday, the announcers had to try and not be too negative. Even they couldn't understand what we were doing offensive and defensively.
Allowing over 95 3 out of last 4 games, you have to try and be that bad defensively.
Watching the game on tv yesterday, the announcers had to try and not be too negative. Even they couldn't understand what we were doing offensive and defensively.
Allowing over 95 3 out of last 4 games, you have to try and be that bad defensively.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:33 am to basiletiger
Knowing Alleva, JJ will last thru the year and likely be back next year.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:35 am to brmark70816
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I'm going to keep defending him though..
Congrats Mrs. Jones. You must be happy your hubby is fleecing LSU of all that supposed coach's pay.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:40 am to chipdouglas96
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If LSU wasn't on his degree, he wouldn't be here now.
This is unquestionable. Nor would he have been hired at any other school at this level.
As I've said 100 times, I like Johnny. Everybody likes Johnny. That's why he got the job. It certainly was not his resume, if that was the case he'd have been offered by another SEC school or Power 5 school.
This is not some knee jerk reaction we are having after one bad game. Last year was a flat-out implosion where the kids consistently lacked effort and interest.
And yesterday wasn't an isolated turd we dropped...Wichita St., Wake, 96 points to Vandy, struggling mightily to outlast Texas Southern and North Carolina whatever.
All these teams having their best shooting days of the year against us. It's not as if we have a bunch of three-toed sloths out there. We have several kids with above average athleticism and length yet the instances where we actually capitalize on that defensively are too few and far between.
I would truly like to say differently, I'd much rather us win and play with fire and intensity. But how much of this do we have to watch of this before we honestly say time ain't gonna fix this. I truly believe the majority are right on this.
that some choose to express that in not so diplomatic ways is part of forums like this, but the underlying point I'm afraid is still valid.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:50 am to brmark70816
We had annoying guys (coaches wife) like this guy on the usu fan boards too. Then the coach got fired, the AD made a good hire, and we went on to have the best 6 seasons in program history. And cheerleaders like this guy will be gone.
At the end of the day, if you don't finish in the top half of your conference, you have to make a change. This isn't high school basketball.
At the end of the day, if you don't finish in the top half of your conference, you have to make a change. This isn't high school basketball.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 12:43 pm to TheCacheValleyTiger
Speak for yourself when you say that the alumni factor matters to all LSU people...i know about 20 pay alumni and not one of us cares about that when it comes to hiring or retaining a coach...johnny has underachieved, the best example of that is that LSU was the only team in a very long time to have the number one overall draft pick and miss the ncaa tournament in that season...last year that happened..i think it was like 30 years since that had happened...i think anyone could have had a winning record with that team and with the team that had Mickey and Martin, they had a 20 point lead erased in the first game of the tournament that year...how many games has jj won in the ncaa tournament at LSU?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 12:44 pm to TheCacheValleyTiger
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if you don't finish in the top half of your conference, you have to make a change
So half of the coaches in the league should be fired every year? That is what you just said. The SEC has 14 teams. Let's review where LSU has landed every year that Jones has been here.
2013- 9th
2014- 7th
2015- 4th
2016- 4th
So by your logic, he shouldn't be fired. Thanks
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We had annoying guys (coaches wife) like this guy on the usu fan boards too
Who the hell is USU?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 12:47 pm to basiletiger
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How long before johnny jones packs his bag...
Has it happened yet? I was hoping for a mid sunday announcement like what happened with Les.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:03 pm to brmark70816
John Brady took over the program in shambles with four scholarship players, and in a couple years we were in the final sixteen.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:23 pm to roygu
I certainly miss Brady ball over this JJ product
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