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The government is creating a hoax before our eyes
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:06 am
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:06 am
Imagine that, the government is so desperate there is zero thought or planning going into this hoax to deceive and mislead the public. The best part is most of the general public is finally seeing through this crap.
As recently as last year, if you had denied this government story about Russian hacking you'd be immediately called a conspiracy theorist and told to put your tinfoil hat on. Now, it is more main stream to not believe the government.
Now, if only everyone could step back a bit and ask themselves with a truly open mind if they honestly think this is the first time the government would collude against the people to create a blatant lie?
As recently as last year, if you had denied this government story about Russian hacking you'd be immediately called a conspiracy theorist and told to put your tinfoil hat on. Now, it is more main stream to not believe the government.
Now, if only everyone could step back a bit and ask themselves with a truly open mind if they honestly think this is the first time the government would collude against the people to create a blatant lie?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:07 am to notsince98
It's not hard to believe after
1. You can keep your doctor
2. Benghazi was because of a video
3. San Bernadino was workplace violence
4. Orlando was a hate crime
5. Etc
The Obama media has tried to sway the sheep on numerous occasions.
1. You can keep your doctor
2. Benghazi was because of a video
3. San Bernadino was workplace violence
4. Orlando was a hate crime
5. Etc
The Obama media has tried to sway the sheep on numerous occasions.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 9:08 am
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:07 am to notsince98
Is it a lie because Trump said so in a tweet?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:12 am to Superior Pariah
quote:
Is it a lie because Trump said so in a tweet?
It's a lie because Farage has said so. It's a lie because Putin has said so. It's a lie because no one will testify before Congress about it. It's a lie because if Russia had hacked her servers and wanted to damage her political ambitions, they would have released HER emails instead of Podesta's.
Finally, it's a lie because even IF Russia did in fact hack Hillary's servers and release Podesta's emails, that isn't what lost her the election. Even IF those emails affected the outcome, it was due to the content included in them not the leak itself. If they had not been colluding with the DNC and members of the mainstream media, then the leaks would have meant nothing.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 9:14 am
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:13 am to Superior Pariah
no its a truth because, well, Obama
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:14 am to Deuces
The government has a long history of bait and switch.
1913: The income tax is made possible via Constitutional amendment. Critics protest that there is no top rate set, warning that the top rate might rise to as much as ten percent. They are assured that no such thing will ever happen.
1936: A Social Security Administration explanation of the programs says : “And finally, beginning in 1949, 12 years from now, you and your employer will each pay 3 cents on each dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year. That is the most you will ever pay.”
1962: AFDC is expanded to “fight poverty” Democrats argue that the numbers are very small and increasing payments will help families get out of poverty. Critics say it will lead to dependency. Before welfare reform you had 15 million recipients and were entering the fourth generation of dependency.
1964 – Critics of the Civil Rights Act charge that it will result in quotas. Hubert Humphrey responds “I‘ll eat my hat if this leads to racial quotas.”
1966 – Critics claim Medicare will be too expensive. The Democratic-dominated “House Ways and Means Committee estimated that Medicare would cost only about $12 billion by 1990 (a figure that included an allowance for inflation). This was supposedly a ‘conservative’ estimate. But in 1990 Medicare actually cost $107 billion.”
2003 – Medicare Part D, drug plan is estimated to cost “only” $340 billion over ten years. Only a few years later and the cost is $540 billion and rapidly rising.
2010 - Obamacare will save the average family $2,500 in premiums and won't add to the deficit. If you like your plan you can keep you plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
1913: The income tax is made possible via Constitutional amendment. Critics protest that there is no top rate set, warning that the top rate might rise to as much as ten percent. They are assured that no such thing will ever happen.
1936: A Social Security Administration explanation of the programs says : “And finally, beginning in 1949, 12 years from now, you and your employer will each pay 3 cents on each dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year. That is the most you will ever pay.”
1962: AFDC is expanded to “fight poverty” Democrats argue that the numbers are very small and increasing payments will help families get out of poverty. Critics say it will lead to dependency. Before welfare reform you had 15 million recipients and were entering the fourth generation of dependency.
1964 – Critics of the Civil Rights Act charge that it will result in quotas. Hubert Humphrey responds “I‘ll eat my hat if this leads to racial quotas.”
1966 – Critics claim Medicare will be too expensive. The Democratic-dominated “House Ways and Means Committee estimated that Medicare would cost only about $12 billion by 1990 (a figure that included an allowance for inflation). This was supposedly a ‘conservative’ estimate. But in 1990 Medicare actually cost $107 billion.”
2003 – Medicare Part D, drug plan is estimated to cost “only” $340 billion over ten years. Only a few years later and the cost is $540 billion and rapidly rising.
2010 - Obamacare will save the average family $2,500 in premiums and won't add to the deficit. If you like your plan you can keep you plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:14 am to Superior Pariah
quote:
Is it a lie because Trump said so in a tweet?
It is a lie for many reasons. Lets lay out a few:
1) The only information outlet on the planet with an absolutely undeniable perfect record (100%) of releasing the truth has said it wasn't the Russians.
2) If the US intelligence communities were so good and were so sure that Russia interfered with the election, why did it take over a month for them to say something?
3) The FBI clearly doesn't agree with the CIA about it. Something this big and huge would have been clear to everyone from the get go.
4) Nobody denies anything released from hacks or whatever was 100% correct. If someone was so desperate to "influence" an election or whatever, they would do like our government does and have mountains of manufactured propaganda to add to the fire. There is none.
If you believe the Russians did this, you should put on your tin foil hat.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 9:17 am
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:15 am to Superior Pariah
quote:
Is it a lie because Trump said so in a tweet?
no it just doesn't really fit with most everything we knew before the election
plus, when Brits are now claiming Russian interference b/c they saw how it caught on in the states, you kind of have to start questioning the narrative
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:17 am to Superior Pariah
quote:
it a lie because Trump said so in a tweet
No, it's a lie because it's a god damned lie. How could you not see through this? I don't understand what's wrong with people. This government is not on your side.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:26 am to TrueTiger
Informative and damn depressing
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
CIA and FBI both know that the Russians did not do all the hacking and influencing that is claimed. CIA is just more corrupted at the top than the FBI.
CIA is lying! It is no a difference of opinion, it is simply a lie on CIAs part.
CIA is lying! It is no a difference of opinion, it is simply a lie on CIAs part.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:35 am to notsince98
quote:The mark of the best con artist is deception on a grand scale. If you're going to deceive, do it at a level where the average Joe wouldn't dare think it could possibly be an evil scheme pulled off in broad daylight. Human nature - crooks thrive on it.
Imagine that, the government is so desperate there is zero thought or planning going into this hoax to deceive and mislead the public.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:40 am to tigerpawl
You sound like a awesome grifter
And you are very correct.
And you are very correct.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:42 am to Superior Pariah
Literally the only entity saying it's Russia are American dems and their appointees in the CIA, and they've done so with no evidence. The alleged source of the hacks, Russia, has denied it. The man who secured and published the hacks, Assange, has denied it. The Russian government has challenged the us to prove their accusations and they can't.
This is all a false flag.
This is all a false flag.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:46 am to notsince98
quote:
this is the first time the government would collude against the people to create a blatant lie?
First time?
It's old as time.
Remember the Maine!
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:59 am to notsince98
so the hoax is that russia hacked the DNC?
I dont understand the motivation to create a hoax, can you shed some light on that? is it just so that there will be doubt about the legitimacy of a MAGA president?
either way, we know someone hacked the DNC, i dont think the release of emails is what tipped this election
I dont understand the motivation to create a hoax, can you shed some light on that? is it just so that there will be doubt about the legitimacy of a MAGA president?
either way, we know someone hacked the DNC, i dont think the release of emails is what tipped this election
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:01 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I know but some are still new to this stuff. Hopefully people start questioning everything they just accepted as truth coming from our government over their lives.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:02 am to Theboot32
quote:
I dont understand the motivation to create a hoax, can you shed some light on that? is it just so that there will be doubt about the legitimacy of a MAGA president?
You don't have to know the motivation to spot a hoax. That is irrelevant.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:06 am to Superior Pariah
quote:
Is it a lie because Trump said so in a tweet?
I'll say yet again:
Info is "hacked" yet zero classified information is released and the architect of the hack was apparently sophisticated enough to do it but not sophisticated enough to adequately cover their tracks, spoof IPs, etc. Not to mention how easily the act could have been done using a spoofed Russian IP address.
A lesson in liberal stupidity.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:13 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
It's a lie because Farage has said so. It's a lie because Putin has said so. It's a lie because no one will testify before Congress about it. It's a lie because if Russia had hacked her servers and wanted to damage her political ambitions, they would have released HER emails instead of Podesta's.
Finally, it's a lie because even IF Russia did in fact hack Hillary's servers and release Podesta's emails, that isn't what lost her the election. Even IF those emails affected the outcome, it was due to the content included in them not the leak itself. If they had not been colluding with the DNC and members of the mainstream media, then the leaks would have meant nothing.
Well said and too polite.
These people need to be exorcised. No mercy.
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