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Why does everyone keep saying Ohio state is clearly the better team?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:54 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:54 am
In 2014, OSU was on fire. And it made sense that they got the nod because they were playing great football
This year, not so much
Last 6 games
Loss to penn state in which OSU looked better
4 point win over northwestern
Blowout win over Maryland
Blowout win over Nebraska
1 point win over Michigan state
2 ot over Michigan in which they were outplayed
So yes, there resume is good, but they don't really pass the eye test and I wouldn't say they are celery better than PSU right now.
This year, not so much
Last 6 games
Loss to penn state in which OSU looked better
4 point win over northwestern
Blowout win over Maryland
Blowout win over Nebraska
1 point win over Michigan state
2 ot over Michigan in which they were outplayed
So yes, there resume is good, but they don't really pass the eye test and I wouldn't say they are celery better than PSU right now.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 7:55 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:55 am to lsupride87
Cause Penn state lost to Pitt and lost to Michigan by 39
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:57 am to LandonC
So you want to use resume or eye test? Pick one
If you use resume
PSU and OSU have the same amount of wins
PSU has 2 top 10 wins and OSU has 3
PSU has 2 losses and OSU has 1
PSU won head to head
PSU won big 10 title
On resume, I can't take OSU
If you use resume
PSU and OSU have the same amount of wins
PSU has 2 top 10 wins and OSU has 3
PSU has 2 losses and OSU has 1
PSU won head to head
PSU won big 10 title
On resume, I can't take OSU
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:57 am to lsupride87
Other than their better record and tougher schedule, no reason at all.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:58 am to ballscaster
So we are back to using record only? I though Herbie and everyone else said we are past looking at just number of losses
Well, now that looking at simply number of losses helps the blue blood, we are all back on it
Well, now that looking at simply number of losses helps the blue blood, we are all back on it
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 7:59 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:58 am to lsupride87
Not my fault you don't know what a better resume looks like
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:59 am to lsupride87
quote:Did you just not even read the entire first sentence?
So we are backing to using record only?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:01 am to lsupride87
You just admitted it's not
OSU has more top 25 wins and less losses. That is what a resume is. The conference title game only got them closer, it STILL doesn't have them close. I mean even with the conference title they have less good wins, and OSU has 2 top 10 wins on the road.
As I said it's not my fault you don't know what a better resume looks like
OSU has more top 25 wins and less losses. That is what a resume is. The conference title game only got them closer, it STILL doesn't have them close. I mean even with the conference title they have less good wins, and OSU has 2 top 10 wins on the road.
As I said it's not my fault you don't know what a better resume looks like
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:02 am to lsupride87
PSU vs OSU
11 wins to 11 wins
2 losses to 1 loss
2 top 10 wins vs 3 top 10 wins
1 head to head win vs 0 head to head win
1 big ten title vs 0 big ten title
Yeh, I like PSU's resume
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:02 am to lsupride87
Penn State will have one top ten win
Ohio State will have two
Wisky isn't staying in the top ten after this weekend.
Ohio State will have two
Wisky isn't staying in the top ten after this weekend.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:02 am to Buckeye06
quote:No, you are just looking at only one part of the resume
You just admitted it's not
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:03 am to Patton
quote:So nothing changes? It went from 3 to 2, now it will be 2 to 1
Penn State will have one top ten win
Ohio State will have two
Wisky isn't staying in the top ten after this weekend.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:03 am to lsupride87
quote:
2 losses to 1 loss
2 top 10 wins vs 3 top 10 wins
But these are the 2 metrics that matter first. If PSU hadn't lost to Pitt they would be in, even with a 40 point loss to Michigan.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:04 am to Patton
Yes they will. Who are they going to move up? 6 lost, 10 lost, 8 lost
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:06 am to lsupride87
No nothing. Just don't buy Wisky being top ten. But like the OSU guy said below they may not drop far. Total B1G bias from the committee if that happens.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:06 am to Patton
quote:
Wisky isn't staying in the top ten after this weekend
Well that's kind of ridiculous to hold against Penn State. The chances of a team staying in the top 10 after a loss are slim to none.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:06 am to Buckeye06
It says championships and head to head matters when teams are "comparable"
11-2 team that has 2 top 10 wins is comparable to an 11-1 team with 3 top 10 wins
If someone says that isn't comparable, they are lying
11-2 team that has 2 top 10 wins is comparable to an 11-1 team with 3 top 10 wins
If someone says that isn't comparable, they are lying
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:07 am to lsupride87
quote:Okay, what if Team A went 8-5. 4 losses were out of conference to terrible teams. But they win every conference game except for one.
So you want to use resume or eye test? Pick one
If you use resume
PSU and OSU have the same amount of wins
PSU has 2 top 10 wins and OSU has 3
PSU has 2 losses and OSU has 1
PSU won head to head
PSU won big 10 title
On resume, I can't take OSU
Team B goes 11-1. They win all of their out of conference games against ranked teams and win all of their conference games except for 1.
Team B's lone loss happened to be to Team A, who is in their division.
Now, Team A and Team B both are 7-1 in conference, but the 8-5 team gets to play in the conference championship because they win the tie-breaker. Team B simply had the "wrong loss".
Now, is 9-5 conference champion Team A more deserving of getting into the playoff over 11-1 Team B?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:08 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:I take the 11-1 team
Now, is 9-5 conference champion Team A more deserving of getting into the playoff over 11-1 Team B?
Now tell me how what you posted is even comparable to what is happening
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 8:09 am
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