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Does this election prove the great forethought of the Electoral College?

Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:02 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146233 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:02 am
The country map is ruby red, and Trump could still possibly win enough states to get 300+... yet Hillary won the popular vote thanks to the big cities like NYC, L.A., et al

This, even more than 2000, shows the electoral college actually does work
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76485 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:04 am to
Yep.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33366 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:07 am to
It's flawed but nothing will be perfect.

I could see maybe awarding some EVs for winning the popular vote.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:07 am to
Yep, the Electoral Collage forces the Presidents to campaign across the entire country.

Without it all you would have to do is hit the big cities.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:08 am to
Should land decide and not people?
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:08 am to
They work but the need to be able to split. Too much power in major cities that undermine rural voting.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32676 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:10 am to
I think you could argue the same way that the EC doesn't work. I'm generally against it, but I'll take the win. Was hoping Trump would win the popular vote so this wouldn't be an issue though
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146233 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:11 am to
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Should land decide and not people?

it's not land, but states, he won the STATES

the people of enough states across the country said "we want Trump"
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10512 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Should land decide and not people?


should be some combination.
what's good for New York City ain't necessarily good for the entire rest of the country.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:13 am to
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Without it all you would have to do is hit the big cities.


Even now voters in big cities drown out the voices in the rest of the state.

I'd much rather see EC votes within a state distributed by percentage of vote or by congressional district/with the popular vote winner within the state getting a +2 for the senate seats.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 10:14 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146233 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:13 am to
also... Trump maintained about a 2% popular lead all night until the left coast (CA, OR, WA) came in
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:14 am to
Should be one vote per state.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146233 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Even now voters in big cities drown out the voices in the rest of the state.

I'd much rather see EC votes within a state distributed by percentage of vote or by congressional district/with the popular vote winner getting a +2 for the senate seats.

I'd liken it to penalty kicks to win the World Cup (yes I just brought in soccer)

it's the perfectly imperfect way to do it
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:15 am to
yeah I am not crazy about the winner take all attitude.


but happy this worked in my favor for once.


Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
53642 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:15 am to
If not for the electoral college, campaigning would be done exclusively in NYC, Chicago, Detroit, etc. A brilliant system.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Without it all you would have to do is hit the big cities.


True, then they could also push for population increases in these areas and tend to their needs above others.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13479 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Should be one vote per state.
No way. The EC is the best way to balance the popular vote with the needs of the states. One vote per state would swing too far toward giving control to a small share of the US population. Abolishing the EC would swing too far toward giving control to densely populated cities who are out of touch with suburban and rural Americans.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17979 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:18 am to
Yes, Indeed. The EC is the only way rural america gets representation in government. Without it, we have mob rule.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13479 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:18 am to
quote:

If not for the electoral college, campaigning would be done exclusively in NYC, Chicago, Detroit, etc. A brilliant system.
Agreed. It would be unjust for only citizens of large cities to have a say in who leads the country.

I don't like the outcome, but it was the "right" outcome and is in keeping with the ideals of American democratic republicanism.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:19 am to
But didn't Trump want to get rid of it not too long ago?
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