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re: Hearing stories of self home reconstruction

Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:26 am to
Posted by snoggerT
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
755 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:26 am to
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I doubt you see anything like that. This flood event was a 1:1000 year event. You just simply don't build to withstand a 1:1000 year flood.


- This was well beyond a 1,000 year flood, which makes it all even more ridiculous.


"Southern Regional Climate Center (SRCC)
August 31 at 7:40am ·

Louisiana Storm was Greater Than 1000-Year Event

Barry Keim, Louisiana State Climatologist, Louisiana State University

South Louisiana is still reeling from the torrential rainfall that hit our State on August 11-13. In fact, recovery from this event will be on the order of months to years, rather than days to weeks. The reason being is that storm is one for the record books (Figure 1). Up to this point, I’ve only had time to examine the two-day rainfall totals (I still need to examine 3-day and 4-day totals), but this storm is beyond impressive. With help of my associate Alan Black at LSU, we determined that the largest 2-day rainfall total ever recorded in Louisiana was 24.46 inches recorded at the Abita Springs on May 9-10, 1995. We have 3 locations that exceeded that total in this event. Let’s pause for a minute.

To put these 2-day rainfall totals in some perspective, a 100-year event at Baton Rouge is 14.2 inches, as depicted by NOAA Atlas 14. This same document notes that a 1000-year event is 21.3 inches. So what does this mean? A 100-year event has a 1 percent chance of being equaled or exceeded in any given year, and if we had many hundreds of years of data, you would expect approximately 1 event per century of data. Note that these would NOT be evenly spaced-out over time however, as you could 2 or 3 “hundred year events” in one century, and none the following century. A 1000-year event has a one-tenth of 1 percent chance of occurring in any given year. Bottom line…..these events are extremely rare. With all that said, south Louisiana had 9 locations that exceeded a 1000-year event for their given location. Most of these were in East Baton Rouge and Livingston Parishes. The three wettest sites over a 2-day period were Denham Springs with 25.5 inches, Brownfields in North Baton Rouge at 26.83, and Watson with an incredible 31.39 inches! All three were record-breaking! When you step back and think about this for a moment, this Watson measurement is over twice the volume of rainfall expected in a 100-year event, and it is still a 10-inches greater than the 1000-year estimate! The Watson rainfall total is also nearly 7 inches larger than the previous record over this 2-day duration. These are clearly crazy times in South Louisiana, and it will take time, and plenty of it, to recover from the wounds inflicted. E-mail me with questions or feedback at keim@lsu.edu."
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57705 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:28 am to
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You gonna watch a youtube video on changing out your vehicles transmission and then do it?
Ive done that.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3965 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:38 am to
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But, if it's outlets, switches and fixtures then, unless you are mechanically retarded, you shouldn't worry.


Sure, if I can do it than most will have no problem.
I'm taking about major electrical work here.

That being said, I still wouldn't trust your average do it yourselfer watching a YouTube video
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
32639 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:44 am to
If I ever flooded again, which I pray never happens, I would gut, reinstall insulation and sheetrock myself. I would get a pro to float the sheetrock. Gutting and installing insulation and sheetrock is not rocket science.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42881 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:53 am to
I'm hearing criteria is damage can't be more than 50% of homes value.

If it is, you've got to raise it and won't get permit.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114774 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:56 am to
From what I understand floating sheetrock is a bitch and if there was any part to consider hiring a contractor for that would probably be it.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3965 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:06 am to
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floating sheetrock is a bitch and if there was any part to consider hiring a contractor for that would probably be it


Tried it, took forever, and didn't like the results...hired a contractor.

If I had more time on my hands (at the time), I would have given it another shot.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3962 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:09 am to
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From what I understand floating sheetrock is a bitch and if there was any part to consider hiring a contractor for that would probably be it.



easy to do, but it's difficult to get it to look like a pro job. if it were my whole house, i would go ahead and start doing it in less important rooms (like laundry, pantry, closets, etc.). i'd get those floated and textured myself while waiting on the contractor.
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2046 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:12 am to
I've heard this to from some friends who flooded in Ascension.

If you house has damage valued at more than 50%, you have to raise the home. If the house is slab, it has to be torn down and rebuilt at the higher stage.

The problem is that those making the valuation haven't "settled" on the criteria for determining the home value. So my friends are in limbo right now and they can't even get a contractor to spend the time to measure and provide a quote out of fear the quote will be rendered useless if the house is ordered to be torn down.

They own a slab house that is about four inches below the flood stage.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15508 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:14 am to
My parents are having to wait to start the rebuilding process until it is determined if they have to raise the house. Apparently, a lot of people in Central are having to do the same.

How the hell do you raise a 2500 SF house that is on a concrete slab and how much does that cost?
Posted by mpar98
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
8038 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:16 am to
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How the hell do you raise a 2500 SF house that is on a concrete slab and how much does that cost?


quote:

If the house is slab, it has to be torn down and rebuilt at the higher stage.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34157 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:17 am to
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How the hell do you raise a 2500 SF house that is on a concrete slab and how much does that cost?


Much cheaper to take the money, move somewhere else and start new.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:17 am to
quote:

I've heard this to from some friends who flooded in Ascension.

If you house has damage valued at more than 50%, you have to raise the home. If the house is slab, it has to be torn down and rebuilt at the higher stage.

The problem is that those making the valuation haven't "settled" on the criteria for determining the home value. So my friends are in limbo right now and they can't even get a contractor to spend the time to measure and provide a quote out of fear the quote will be rendered useless if the house is ordered to be torn down.

They own a slab house that is about four inches below the flood stage.


Exact same predicament my friend is going through in Denham right now. Slab house. Sustained 8' of water.

Home was built in the 70's . Just a regular concrete slab.

That slab wouldn't hold a 2 story home. Slab has to be post tension with 4x the amount of rebar in it for a 2 story home.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:19 am to
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How the hell do you raise a 2500 SF house that is on a concrete slab and how much does that cost?



Much cheaper to take the money, move somewhere else and start new.
on the surface this would be a logical step but where would they move? Property just isn't available to build a new home. And what about those properties that would be abandoned?

Denham,Central and Ascension parish would become section 8 communities overnight.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3020 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:21 am to
I've changed/rebuilt a bunch of transmissions... Hell, that was even before youtube.

I'd say even people with minimal skills can do drywall and hook up a damn sink.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15508 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:31 am to
My parents just paid off their home last year and retired. They have flood insurance despite never coming close to flooding. All they want to do is fix their house and enjoy retirement. The red tape and hoops they're having to jump through right now is getting ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 10:33 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14249 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:33 am to
If water got so high that the house has to be rewired I wouldn't even think about buying the house in the first place. If water was less than 4' range there should be no reason to have to rewire a house.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36226 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:34 am to
I've done the basic electrical. Even ran some new wires that weren't feeds. For the major appliances and fixing the out of code breaker box, getting a professional. I could probably do it fine, but that's not something worth leaving up to chance.

Practically everything else I'm doing myself.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:36 am to
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My parents just paid off their home last year and retired. They have flood insurance despite never coming close to flooding. All they want to do is fix their house and enjoy retirement. The red tape and hoops they're having to jump through right now is getting ridiculous.




Yep. And hey, they could probably fix their home with the money from flood insurance but they would never get to purchase flood insurance again.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15508 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:39 am to
Yep, and we've thought about that. But they don't want to take a chance and live the rest of their lives with that hanging over their head.
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