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re: Robber with AK-47 might not live to regret his decisions/Dallas

Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
4792 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:35 am to
I think the guy pointing the gun at him brought stand your ground back into play.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
84597 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:37 am to
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I'm all for robbers getting their due. It would be a clean shooting if he shot the guy in the restaurant. But he followed him to the parking lot.
If his wife really was moments away from pulling in, I really hope the guy doesn't land in any trouble. If that was a lie, he could be screwed.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
87142 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:37 am to
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Also you have the fact that generally speaking unless you're in close quarters, approaching a guy with an AK in a parking lot could turn out badly (just on range alone) for the CCL holder.


Whether it was a legal shoot or not is one thing, but there is no denying that it was a risky and frankly stupid decision, unless he really did have his wife coming to meet him.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12914 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:37 am to
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Some of you have never attended the Conceal Carry class. You can't pursue.



You also have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6629 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:37 am to
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That’s because Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property.”
God Bless Texas
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6949 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:38 am to
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Ehh, hopefully this CCL guy really did have someone on the way or else he could have legal issues for pursuing the guy and ultimately killing him.



Incorrect, you legally have right to shoot someone if they put your life or someone else's life in danger. They teach this in conceal carry training courses. At least this is what the state trooper taught me in the course I took.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:38 am to
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Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property.”
Louisiana needs to adopt this.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5862 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:39 am to
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Whether it was a legal shoot or not is one thing, but there is no denying that it was a risky and frankly stupid decision, unless he really did have his wife coming to meet him.



Risky, yes. But this is the type of backbone this country needs its citizens to have. I personally stand and applaud this man
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21158 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:39 am to
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Incorrect, you legally have right to shoot someone if they put your life or someone else's life in danger. They teach this in conceal carry training courses. At least this is what the state trooper taught me in the course I took.


Did anyone here take a Texas CCL class?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31963 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:39 am to
Hollered at him to get him to face him. Shot in the front = self defense

Marvelous work by that armed citizen
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:40 am to
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


Lol I like that, gonna steal it
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 9:41 am
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15767 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:40 am to
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He's going to jail


Uh no.

That's why he called out first instead of shooting right away. As soon as the robber pointed his gun at the customer, the customer had every right legally to kill the robber.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23896 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:40 am to
In Texas you can
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:40 am to
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Some of you have never attended the Conceal Carry class.
Some of you assume the laws of one state are the same as the laws of every other state.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32079 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:41 am to
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Some of you have never attended the Conceal Carry class. You can't pursue.


i have. And obviously you dont know everything. Your one class isnt the Bible for everywhere.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
87142 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:42 am to
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Oddibe


Was just coming to post the same except from that TIME article. Apparently the guy is justified whether his wife was coming or not.

That being said, these are some pretty fricked up situations that were acquitted under that law:

quote:

On Christmas Eve in 2009, Ezekiel Gilbert paid an escort he found on Craigslist $150 for what he thought would be sex. Instead, according to the San Antonio Express-News, 23-year-old Lenora Frago left his apartment after about 20 minutes without consummating the act. Gilbert, now 30, followed her to a car with a gun and shot her in the neck through the passenger-side window. Frago became paralyzed, and died about seven months later. Gilbert admitted to shooting her but contended that he did not intend to kill.


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Texas law also justifies killing to protect others’ property. In 2007, a man told 14 times by a 911 operator to remain inside during a robbery gunned down two thieves fleeing from his neighbor’s house. (“There’s no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?” the operator said on the call. The shooter’s response: “The law has been changed….Here it goes, buddy! You hear the shotgun clickin’ and I’m goin’!”) He was acquitted the next year.


Fearing for your life or the life of others is one thing. Shooting and killing someone a robber as they leave the scene is quite another, and I hate a thief.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6629 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:42 am to
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Lol I like that, gonna steal it
I certainly can't take credit for it, been around for years.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
20413 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:43 am to
Give that man a free All Star Special
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
87142 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:43 am to
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That's why he called out first instead of shooting right away. As soon as the robber pointed his gun at the customer, the customer had every right legally to kill the robber.


That's what you'd think, but he could have shot him in the back as he entered his car to drive off and been justified in Texas.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:43 am to
Awesome!
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