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re: Is Skip Bertman considered the best college baseball coach in history?
Posted on 6/17/16 at 7:27 am to double d
Posted on 6/17/16 at 7:27 am to double d
Ron Dedeaux - 
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Throughout his USC career, he accepted a nominal salary of $1 per year, as his trucking business supplied a substantial income.
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 7:31 am to theantiquetiger
quote:You nailed it.
I think the biggest difference between the two is what Skip did for college baseball overall, not just for LSU. I feel Skip made college baseball what it is today as far as fanbase, major stadiums, and tv coverage.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 8:38 am to Weaver
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Gene Stephenson
I disqualify him for directing amateurs to throw at the heads of other amateurs and directing Ben Christensen to throw at a batter in the on deck circle during warm-ups.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 8:48 am to bobbyleewilliams
Skip might have drove the bus but fans like us were the engine... there's no going back now...
Posted on 6/17/16 at 8:49 am to double d
I love Dedeaux's MLB career...
MLB debut
September 28, 1935, for the Brooklyn Dodgers
Last MLB appearance
September 29, 1935, for the Brooklyn Dodgers
He did have an RBI though
MLB debut
September 28, 1935, for the Brooklyn Dodgers
Last MLB appearance
September 29, 1935, for the Brooklyn Dodgers
He did have an RBI though
Posted on 6/17/16 at 9:22 am to theantiquetiger
There are many factors at play here. Dedeaux deserves credit for his accomplishments but he did it in era when college baseball was not mainstream.
ESPN slowly started bringing the spotlight to college baseball in 1980. Bertman came to LSU in 1984 and from my memory MSU was the bell cow of the SEC at that time. Skip not only built LSU into a national power but was instrumental in making the SEC a national power.
It's hard to believe that Goergia won the first SEC NC in 1990! Since then the SEC has won 10 of the last 25(Lsu 6 times).
To answer your question, Skip doesn't have the best resume when talking about career numbers, but he dominated the sport during the era when college baseball became mainstream.
ESPN slowly started bringing the spotlight to college baseball in 1980. Bertman came to LSU in 1984 and from my memory MSU was the bell cow of the SEC at that time. Skip not only built LSU into a national power but was instrumental in making the SEC a national power.
It's hard to believe that Goergia won the first SEC NC in 1990! Since then the SEC has won 10 of the last 25(Lsu 6 times).
To answer your question, Skip doesn't have the best resume when talking about career numbers, but he dominated the sport during the era when college baseball became mainstream.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:15 am to Oddibe
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There are many factors at play here. Dedeaux deserves credit for his accomplishments but he did it in era when college baseball was not mainstream.
ESPN slowly started bringing the spotlight to college baseball in 1980. Bertman came to LSU in 1984 and from my memory MSU was the bell cow of the SEC at that time. Skip not only built LSU into a national power but was instrumental in making the SEC a national power.
It's hard to believe that Goergia won the first SEC NC in 1990! Since then the SEC has won 10 of the last 25(Lsu 6 times).
To answer your question, Skip doesn't have the best resume when talking about career numbers, but he dominated the sport during the era when college baseball became mainstream.
This is very true. Dedeaux won at a time when many major schools were not even playing baseball, and many that were put no resources into it.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:23 am to Bayoufightingtiger
Cant really compare Skip to Auggie...... Auggie played small ball and Skip would let'em rake! Both are great coaches IMO with 2 different coaching styles.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:34 am to BlackAdam
Dedeaux is not to blame, but the level of competition back then was literally no comparison to what Augie & Polk & Skip had to battle through. When USC was winning all those titles, there were basically 4-5 mabe 6 teams who were consistently good. To be fair, make it 10. Skip & Polk often had that many in the SEC itself. Augie, to me, because he did it in two different programs is #1, but as noted here, Skip is #1B. As an aside, the last time Dedeaux competed against Skip & LSU, he actually complained on the radio that LSU had an unfair advantage because all of Omaha was pulling for LSU.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:45 pm to theantiquetiger
Rod did it when the competition and sport in general didn't reall compare to what it is today. Now everyone is invested in their program from the tiny college in Florida to the big name schools in each state. It's a different game. Augie had success had two school similar to Horton who I think is one of the best as well. I'd still put Skip at 1 or 2 though.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:49 pm to Martini
Yeah we had season tickets right next to the players girls for the day. And family. Gave them up at the new venue.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:51 pm to theantiquetiger
don't know who the coach(es) was(were,) but didn't USCw win it five years in a row?
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:40 pm to double d
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Sorry but this guy should own that title. New Orleans born to boot.
That was before the regulations on scholarships... USC was able to "buy" all of the best players in the nation- the guys riding a bench for four years were still given full rides to a premium private California school.
Back then almost no school cared enough to spend money on baseball... Except USC. I'm not knocking what he did, but there are a number of coaches over the years (like Skip) that could've amassed similar accomplishments had they been given the same financial support.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:45 pm to theantiquetiger
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Skip made college baseball what it is today as far as fanbase, major stadiums, and tv coverage.
kind of the other way around but I'm glad we did what we did under Skip
ETA: the TV coverage
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:48 pm to theantiquetiger
yes
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:57 pm to Oddibe
quote:
ng about career numbers, but he dominated the sport during the era when college baseball became mainstream
Not really sure how anybody, besides lsu fans, could say that college baseball was mainstream during Skip's time at LSU. Sure the SEC became a lot stronger, but it was still usually the same few schools that cared about baseball in omaha year in year out in the 80s and 90s.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:03 pm to double d
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When Skip took over LSU was pretty bad and the few fans used to yell at the "ref".
Yeah yeah yeah and called runs points....classic skip fabrication
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:08 pm to double d
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LSU was pretty bad and the few fans used to yell at the "ref".
nope, you youngn's are pretty good about just making shite up and presenting it as the"way it was"
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:10 pm to T
quote:College baseball became mainstream only because ESPN started covering the World Series in 1980, by 1990 it was very mainstream.
Not really sure how anybody, besides lsu fans, could say that college baseball was mainstream during Skip's time at LSU. Sure the SEC became a lot stronger, but it was still usually the same few schools that cared about baseball in omaha year in year out in the 80s and 90s.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:16 pm to double d
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Sorry but this guy should own that title. New Orleans born to boot
From Dedeaux WIki --
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MLB debut
September 28, 1935, for the Brooklyn Dodgers
Last MLB appearance
September 29, 1935, for the Brooklyn Dodgers
Damn, he was like Moonlight Graham.
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