- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:17 pm to tigerinthebueche
It's an opiate. You've got all these people who were legitimately (or illegitimately) prescribed opioid pain pills and became addicted to them. Then the government cracks down on prescription pain pills. They're still addicted, even if they can't get their OxyContin, or whatever. Herion feeds their opiate addiction and is more readily available, and cheaper, on the street than opioid pills. But because herion isn't regulated, the addict doesn't always know what they're getting, which can lead to a rash of overdoses, if the heroin is stronger than what they're used to.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:22 pm to Errerrerrwere
When I was in rehab, a dude got rushed to the hospital and died from alcohol withdrawals. He used to drink a case of beer every night after work, and that was it. He was like 31, and had a young daughter, good looking wife, nice job, and had just built a house. I was in detox with him for like a week before that happened. It was a wake up call to cut back on my frequency of partying.
No heroin or oxy addicts went to the hospital while I was there. They for sure felt worse detoxing, but I don't think they had as much of a chance of dying as the alcoholics
Eta: Each drug had a certain feeling that people like. Hell, it's hard for me to turn down booger sugar when someone offers it. Still think about it, and think about it every time I look at my Adderall bottles, but I don't do it anymore. Some people like to speed, some people like to slow down.
No heroin or oxy addicts went to the hospital while I was there. They for sure felt worse detoxing, but I don't think they had as much of a chance of dying as the alcoholics
Eta: Each drug had a certain feeling that people like. Hell, it's hard for me to turn down booger sugar when someone offers it. Still think about it, and think about it every time I look at my Adderall bottles, but I don't do it anymore. Some people like to speed, some people like to slow down.
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:25 pm to White Roach
Thanks all for the tutorial.
So are there more people looking for opiates as opposed to the other drugs? Are am I interpreting it wrong? I mean didn't crack have this same rep years ago as well as coke? Or is the opiate attraction a whole new level of addiction ( more powerful than other drugs?)
So are there more people looking for opiates as opposed to the other drugs? Are am I interpreting it wrong? I mean didn't crack have this same rep years ago as well as coke? Or is the opiate attraction a whole new level of addiction ( more powerful than other drugs?)
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:27 pm to tigerinthebueche
drug patterns come in waves and are often related to social groupings
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:29 pm to tigerinthebueche
It affects a lot of people. Any class of person can get hooked. In my experience, people start by taking pills for a legitimate injury, then go to snorting them, then injecting them. The entire time, they're running around trying to find doctors to prescribe Oxy to them. If they have enough money and availability, they'll keep with the pills. If not, they'll go with the dirty shite.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:31 pm to Hammertime
Sounds like heroin is playing the role of Darwin's mighty sword
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:33 pm to Hammertime
I'm all for smoking an occasional j; but smashing pills up to put in my veins? Meh.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:34 pm to Hammertime
Thanks guys. I'm not trying to be obtuse, but it seems like we go thru this every so often with some sort of drug. Coke, crack, meth. There always seems to be something that gets everyone all jazzed up. Then it seems to die out.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:35 pm to Hammertime
quote:
No heroin or oxy addicts went to the hospital while I was there. They for sure felt worse detoxing, but I don't think they had as much of a chance of dying as the alcoholics
alcohol and benzodiazepine withdrawals can kill you... opiate withdrawals will not, though you will feel like death would be a welcomed reprieve...
the Thomas recipes helps, but it's not a cure all... i've detoxed a ton of times, but my last time i detoxed i use gabapentin and it helped a lot... i mean, you are still going through opiate withdrawals, but it's much less severe.... been almost 4 and 1/2 years ago
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:39 pm to Hammertime
quote:Yes DT's (delirium tremors) is the fourth and final stage of chronic alcoholism and a full DT "seizure" can kill you. Alcohol also kills in many other ways as well like organ failure or drunk drunk driving etc.. Why in the world alcohol is legal and weed isn't is a social travesty.
When I was in rehab, a dude got rushed to the hospital and died from alcohol withdrawals.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:40 pm to gthog61
You'd be surprised at the people who get addicted to Oxy. Most of the people I know haven't made the switch to heroin because they have enough money, but they aren't who you'd expect to be injecting pills into their arms.
I know one lurker here had it happen after a back injury. Doesn't have an addictive personality at all. He did inpatient for a month, and then outpatient for three months. Basically hit the reset button and hasn't done it since. I can tell you that he gets extremely uncomfortable around people who are on downers now. He'll get sick to his stomach and leave
I know one lurker here had it happen after a back injury. Doesn't have an addictive personality at all. He did inpatient for a month, and then outpatient for three months. Basically hit the reset button and hasn't done it since. I can tell you that he gets extremely uncomfortable around people who are on downers now. He'll get sick to his stomach and leave
quote:From what I gathered through the staff at rehab, that guy had major organ failure after that week. He was always sweating like a mf'er and slept all of the damn time. Supposedly his kidneys quit and his liver shut down, followed by some other organs. He died a few hours after getting to the hospital....before his family had time to get to him
Crow Pie
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:42 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Heroin is physically addicting drug. I hear alcohol is another. You can die withdrawing off of these. Coke is mental.
You will not die from opiate withdrawals. It's a very uncomfortable withdrawal, though.
And they're all mentally addictive to a very high degree.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:46 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:
How do you treat pain?
Mostly by teaching the person with pain that pain is a normal thing that is OK to live with.
In a nutshell:
1) address source
2) give expectations early
3) add analgesics if unnecessary
4) add atypical medication known to stop chronic pain
5) consider chronic opiates.
Usually #2 doesn't happen and 3 and 4 are skipped. There are national initiatives to reduce the use of chronic opiates/opioids. They're rarely indicated but frequently used.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:47 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
Thanks guys. I'm not trying to be obtuse, but it seems like we go thru this every so often with some sort of drug. Coke, crack, meth. There always seems to be something that gets everyone all jazzed up. Then
Yep. And as long as there is a war or epidemic against it; then the government, insurance companies, law enforcement agencies and people who service those industries make money.
It's a circle jerk.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:50 pm to CoastTrashTiger
Mr. Mackey was not lying. Drugs are bad, mmkay
Posted on 4/16/16 at 9:04 pm to CoastTrashTiger
Doubt heroin use is as widespread now as the late 1800's, early 1900's. Heroin was legal - people were using it for anything pain related, included giving it to infants.
The Great Binge
The Great Binge
Posted on 4/17/16 at 10:47 am to LSU1NSEC
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 11:04 am to White Roach
quote:
ite Roach
In Orleans Parish there were more heroin related deaths in January 2016, than in all of 2015. Way up in Jefferson, too. They're blaming it, in part, on Fentanyl being added to the heroin, but the root cause is prescription opiate addiction
I think that's what killed Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News