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re: Second student found dead in a dorm at Loyola (NO)
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:01 pm to White Roach
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:01 pm to White Roach
I agree deaths are up, it has become common knowledge.
Not sure use is up though.
Not sure use is up though.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:14 pm to supadave3
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personally know that have died from heroin in the last year, and the many many more people I know that have been in and out of treatment fighting that addiction.
Well, I personally don't know FOUR people on heroin.
Sorry.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:17 pm to Errerrerrwere
Just because you don't know they're on heroin doesn't mean they aren't. There are some reasonably high functioning addicts out there.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:24 pm to supadave3
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Yeah, an epidemic.
LINK
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Five people died from heroin two years ago. That number went up to 35 deaths in 2013. So far this year, nine people have died from heroin but more cases are pending.
can we get stats for 85-95?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:24 pm to fightin tigers
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Not sure use is up though.
it is. LA has made major strides in limiting the ability to get pills. heroin is cheaper and easier to get
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:25 pm to White Roach
I was in college from 2009-2013, smoked pot, snorted coke and partied balls. I liked having a good time.
Not once was heroine ever mentioned nor have I ever even seen it.
To say heroine is an epidemic among college students is just a ridiculous statement.
I also haven't done any kind of drug since college. Even when I did, I researched it thoroughly and knew what I was getting myself into. Even if I had died I wouldn't have wanted anyone to cry over it, it was my decision to be an idiot.
I will never feel bad for someone who OD's on drugs. Ever.
Not once was heroine ever mentioned nor have I ever even seen it.
To say heroine is an epidemic among college students is just a ridiculous statement.
I also haven't done any kind of drug since college. Even when I did, I researched it thoroughly and knew what I was getting myself into. Even if I had died I wouldn't have wanted anyone to cry over it, it was my decision to be an idiot.
I will never feel bad for someone who OD's on drugs. Ever.
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:28 pm to McCaigBro69
Heroin is much more widely available in NO than it is in BR.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:35 pm to Lester Earl
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Heroin is much more widely available in NO than it is in BR.
And they go to the smart schools.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:37 pm to McCaigBro69
Would you feel bad for the ODer's mother? She gets to live with the decisions of her naive child.
I'm glad you "researched" everything and were/are so well educated and informed. Here's a news flash for you: You didn't know what you were getting every time, even if you thought you did.
Do you actually believe you knew exactly what your coke was cut with? What was in every tab of Molly? How much fentanyl was is the heroin you never saw?
I'm glad you "researched" everything and were/are so well educated and informed. Here's a news flash for you: You didn't know what you were getting every time, even if you thought you did.
Do you actually believe you knew exactly what your coke was cut with? What was in every tab of Molly? How much fentanyl was is the heroin you never saw?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:42 pm to White Roach
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Just because you don't know they're on heroin doesn't mean they aren't. There are some reasonably high functioning addicts out there.
Now I'm going to be searching for the four super secret heroin addicts I associate with or are family/friends of mine.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:43 pm to White Roach
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You didn't know what you were getting every time, even if you thought you did.
Do you actually believe you knew exactly what your coke was cut with? What was in every tab of Molly? How much fentanyl was is the heroin you never saw?
well there is also the whole addictive personality or whatever the hell creates addiction issues in some people
everyone has vices and pleasures. some people aren't built to handle certain ones well
even the most straight edge person can run into a substance that causes issues. we all eat, and food addiction is a serious thing
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
Heroin...I have seen it almost triple as the drug if choice in treatment centers relative to prescription pain meds in the last 18 months. The correlation to increase in heroin as they cut down the access to RX is real.
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:52 pm to Crow Pie
i deal with it in my work (i do criminal defense) and it's real. i talk with my clients about their problems and they go into major details about it. i also grew up in an area that became saturated with pills and THAT was a major thing for a while
those TX pain mills being 30 minutes away made it very easy to get large quantities of "legal" opiates over here
those TX pain mills being 30 minutes away made it very easy to get large quantities of "legal" opiates over here
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:00 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Just because you don't know they're on heroin doesn't mean they aren't. There are some reasonably high functioning addicts out there.
Now I'm going to be searching for the four super secret heroin addicts I associate with or are family/friends of mine.
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Hopefully, your basic assumption is correct and you don't have any addicts among your family and friends.
Just because you don't know they're on heroin doesn't mean they aren't. There are some reasonably high functioning addicts out there.
Now I'm going to be searching for the four super secret heroin addicts I associate with or are family/friends of mine.
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Hopefully, your basic assumption is correct and you don't have any addicts among your family and friends.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:07 pm to White Roach
Sorry for not knowing this, but what makes heroin so addictive? Why is it so prevalent now as compared to crack, coke, meth? I hear about the epidemic, but why heroin?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:09 pm to Crow Pie
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Heroin...I have seen it almost triple as the drug if choice in treatment centers relative to prescription pain meds in the last 18 months. The correlation to increase in heroin as they cut down the access to RX is real.
This is what I keep hearing.
I'm not in the medical profession; but if pain medicine is the reasoning for people choosing heroin because of the anti-pain effects; the cost and they are also scheduled one narcotics make it harder for patients that need them to get it. It seems an ongoing cycle of bullshite.
How do you treat pain?
That's the answer that needs to be proven without getting anyone strung out on this shite.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:12 pm to tigerinthebueche
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what makes heroin so addictive?
it makes you feel great, for one
plus i believe we evolved to use opiates. i think our brains have specific opioid receptors. some doctors can correct me
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Why is it so prevalent now as compared to crack, coke, meth? I
well opiates are very popular, mostly b/c they start as being legally prescribed quite often. this led to a rash of opioid abuse since the late 90s, which has led to many states making acquiring LEGAL opiates difficult.
also the US invading afghanistan and decreasing the power of the taliban, allowing warlords to have more power PLUS mexican drug cartels starting to grow poppy plants have led to a surge in supply, lowering the price of "street" opiates (namely heroin)
so you have a huge demand, with a limited supply of legal options, which means the price of black market options have skyrocketed, while there is a more powerful, available, and now cheap substitute (heroin)
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:12 pm to tigerinthebueche
Heroin is physically addicting drug. I hear alcohol is another. You can die withdrawing off of these. Coke is mental.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:13 pm to Errerrerrwere
You don't think cocaine is physically addictive?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:14 pm to Iron Lion
well any obsessive-compulsive behavior can lead to "physical" addiction
but coke is low on the scale in terms of drugs
heroin and nicotine often race for #1 in terms of physical addiction
but coke is low on the scale in terms of drugs
heroin and nicotine often race for #1 in terms of physical addiction
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