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Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:12 am to Da Hammer
I have had the 15kw generac gas since Rita. Total cost was about 11K installed (FEMA payed for it) It has the proper automatic isolation disconnects. It is setup to come on every Sunday at 2pm and run for 1hr. In 10 years I have only had to replace the regulator diaphram twice and I now keep 3 on the shelf just in case (dry natural gas will cause them to dry rot and split). I have also replaced the crank battery once, and had it lubed and serviced once both about 3 or 4 years ago. I'm probably about due again.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:01 pm to jmarto1
I'd like to see what generator they're charging so much for. You should be able to get a better brand, higher output, with transfer switch, 1800rpm NG, liquid cooled one for $10k. Looking online, a 16kW Generac costs between $3500 and $4000 with transfer switch.
I'd also like to see what they're charging for those damn ball valves
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I'd also like to see what they're charging for those damn ball valves
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This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:47 pm to jmarto1
Unless there is a person in the house will serious medical issues I don't see the point. Get a couple of small portable generators and you'll be fine. Realistically, how often does your power go out for an extended period of time ?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:57 pm to ElderTiger
So stack generators? Seems like a good idea
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:03 pm to ElderTiger
Asking the cost of a stand by generator is like asking the price on a car "It really depends." Houses with the same sq. ft. can have very different power requirements, such as all electric vs. a combination of gas and electric.
Each house has to be sized because of the electrical equipment it contains like AC units, Freezers, refrigerators, ovens/stove, dryer, etc.
Other factors for natural gas generator are how far from the generator is the gas meter, or is a tank required. The brand of generator is also a factor, a Cummings or Kohler will be more expensive than a Generic but for a good reason.
Do you want to run your whole house or just certain items will effect the cost.
Each house has to be sized because of the electrical equipment it contains like AC units, Freezers, refrigerators, ovens/stove, dryer, etc.
Other factors for natural gas generator are how far from the generator is the gas meter, or is a tank required. The brand of generator is also a factor, a Cummings or Kohler will be more expensive than a Generic but for a good reason.
Do you want to run your whole house or just certain items will effect the cost.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:03 pm to Hammertime
I'm about 250' from the road (gas meter is at the road). I have a 1" meter and 1" line ran to the house. Gas and electrical come in on the same side, with my breaker panel just 10' inside the house. Wondering if I should just attempt the install myself, with the assistance of my retired electrician pow-pow..
I want to be able to run the household pretty normal in the event of an outage..stove and furnace are gas, but have two 220 water heaters and AC running on electric. Two refrigerators and one deep freezer. Any sizing suggestions?
I want to be able to run the household pretty normal in the event of an outage..stove and furnace are gas, but have two 220 water heaters and AC running on electric. Two refrigerators and one deep freezer. Any sizing suggestions?
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:16 pm to bootlegger
Call a professional to come size it and do the install. If there are problems there will be one person to complain to.
Most will have a maintenance plan.
I would find a Generac, Kohler and Cummings Dealer and give each of them a call.
Most will have a maintenance plan.
I would find a Generac, Kohler and Cummings Dealer and give each of them a call.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:36 pm to ElderTiger
I've only been in the house for 6 months so not sure. The worst outage has been for about two hours.
AC/some lights/fridge and freezer
Think about what you really need in an extended outage such as after a storm. Can you heat water on the stove to bathe with? If that is the difference between an 11kw and a 16kw then you may want to suck it up to save the money. I'm guessing with my 2000sqft house an 11kw will do me as a 16kw will do my whole house.
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Do you want to run your whole house or just certain items will effect the cost.
AC/some lights/fridge and freezer
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I want to be able to run the household pretty normal in the event of an outage..stove and furnace are gas, but have two 220 water heaters and AC running on electric. Two refrigerators and one deep freeze. Any sizing suggestions?
Think about what you really need in an extended outage such as after a storm. Can you heat water on the stove to bathe with? If that is the difference between an 11kw and a 16kw then you may want to suck it up to save the money. I'm guessing with my 2000sqft house an 11kw will do me as a 16kw will do my whole house.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:57 pm to jmarto1
A whole house NG Generator is a convenience. I have a 10kw gas generator that I used for the last 10 years. I am able to run the lights, freezer and refri. and all small appliances. I also run a small 110 v. ac in the bed room to sleep at night.
Gasoline generators have to be refilled every 6-10 hours. You need enough storage containers to last a week. For a major storm any gas stations that are open will be packed with people.
Both of my neighbors have whole house NG and after looking at their system, I decided to pull the trigger on one.
Gasoline generators have to be refilled every 6-10 hours. You need enough storage containers to last a week. For a major storm any gas stations that are open will be packed with people.
Both of my neighbors have whole house NG and after looking at their system, I decided to pull the trigger on one.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:45 pm to jmarto1
Off of a 5500/6750, I usually run:
Any lights I want
TV and shite connected to it
Computer
2 full sized refrigerators
2 small A/C units (smallest at Home Depot)
The A/C units run basically 24/7, but it does make some noise when one of the fridges kicks on
Any lights I want
TV and shite connected to it
Computer
2 full sized refrigerators
2 small A/C units (smallest at Home Depot)
The A/C units run basically 24/7, but it does make some noise when one of the fridges kicks on
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:46 pm to jmarto1
when Armageddon comes again, i wouldn't want to be nowhere near houma.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:08 pm to Chad504boy
I might not have much choice
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:21 pm to jmarto1
Eh, at least you'll have a shite ton of hot wings and titties around to barter
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:23 pm to Hammertime
Seriously, I barter with our food all the time. If I added them up as a "benefit" I do really, really well.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:22 pm to jmarto1
So I received a new quote and one way better. They said I needed a 20kw and quoted $7500-8000 for full install.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:07 pm to jmarto1
Much better price, but are you trying to run the entire house like it's on municipal power?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:25 pm to Hammertime
I am. Sold my side-by-side, and am putting that moolah towards the generator. Buy once, cry once...
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:55 pm to Chad504boy
quote:This. I just did my annual fill on my 8 gas cans. 40 gallons + gas in the car tanks should be enough to keep my fridge running and a window unit on a night if another "katrina" type event happens.
usually, i'll stock up a bunch of gas cans just cause during the summer regardless.
Posted on 3/19/16 at 9:13 am to jmarto1
Just for a frame of reference, 20kW is enough to run a decent sized tug boat. You can get away with MUCH smaller if you have a half-arse plan on how you will run stuff when the powers out.
Of course if you want to act like nothing is wrong and run everything and not care when certain stuff starts, 20kW is probably what it takes when the AC and freezer both kick on at the same time your wife decides to make coffee and dry her hair.
Of course if you want to act like nothing is wrong and run everything and not care when certain stuff starts, 20kW is probably what it takes when the AC and freezer both kick on at the same time your wife decides to make coffee and dry her hair.
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