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I hate Printer Companies
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:10 pm
Bastards are worse than used car salesmen.
Yes. I didn't do the leg work. I hate color printers but my sister wanted one.I saw a printer with 4 ink slots. I made the INCORRECT assumption that if she just used color on rare occasions, she would just need to replace the black cartridge.
Nope. All 4 are empty at the same time. The fracking piece of crap uses 4 colors to produce black. The 4 replacement cartridges cost more than the printer.
Honestly, I think I wish cancer on the engineer who came up with this scheme.
Frack em.
She has had it for about a year. They aren't getting any extra cash. I'm going to buy a NEW printer from Brother.
/rant
Yes. I didn't do the leg work. I hate color printers but my sister wanted one.I saw a printer with 4 ink slots. I made the INCORRECT assumption that if she just used color on rare occasions, she would just need to replace the black cartridge.
Nope. All 4 are empty at the same time. The fracking piece of crap uses 4 colors to produce black. The 4 replacement cartridges cost more than the printer.
Honestly, I think I wish cancer on the engineer who came up with this scheme.
Frack em.
She has had it for about a year. They aren't getting any extra cash. I'm going to buy a NEW printer from Brother.
/rant
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:28 pm to TigerMyth36
The problem with ink jet printers is that they waste ink to try to keep the nozzles from clogging. This makes them horribly expensive to run except for high volume printing, where you can keep ahead of the automatic cleaning cycles. I gave up after tracking my usage over a year and finding my 6 color HP printer was costing me $.30 per page to run. This was for printing only a few pages a week on average, mostly black and white documents, with the rare photo thrown in. I replaced it with a Brother laser in 2010 or so, and I'm still on the starter toner. I would have spent literally hundreds of dollars on ink to keep running the HP.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:57 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
I'm going to nail down if she really uses color often and what for. If she really only uses it on rare occasions then F it and get a monochrome laser.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:00 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
printers are disposable today
if you must have color , spend the bucks and get laser
if you must have color , spend the bucks and get laser
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:29 pm to 756
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if you must have color , spend the bucks and get laser
Depends on the intended use, doesn't it? Last I checked, color lasers were OK for documents, but ink jets were far superior for photos. I loved my 6 color HP for photos; it was just a shame I printed so infrequently it wasted most of its ink in automatic cleaning cycles.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:48 pm to TigerMyth36
I use a Ricoh MPC 306...don't have those problems.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:18 am to TigerMyth36
I was getting my cartridges refilled at Costco...but they are quitting that service. I'm guessing I'm going to start refilling my own. Damnit...
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:44 am to TigerMyth36
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I made the INCORRECT assumption that if she just used color on rare occasions, she would just need to replace the black cartridge.
if it's an HP, it probably wouldn't run with an empty cartridge anyway. my wife uses all colors, but if any single color runs out, it won't print at all (even in black only). it's a racket for sure
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:49 am to TigerMyth36
invest in Brother laserjet printer....
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:32 am to BabySam
How does someone downvote? It is clear the ink market is a racket. Also clear there is clear indication that the printers are designed to use as much ink as possible as fast as possible just like their software tells you to buy new cartridges when you still have 100s of pages of ink left.
Were you mad because I also disparaged Used Car salesmen?
Were you mad because I also disparaged Used Car salesmen?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:43 pm to TigerMyth36
I have to buy a printer today. I've never been more unhappy about shopping for technology.
My dilemma is that I need to print things so infrequently that it makes inkjet a less-than-ideal choice. But, when I do need to print, my production requirements are varied and specialized -- photos, labels/envelopes/cardstock, double-sided, etc. A color laser in my price range tends to be mediocre at photos and not very adept at handling specialized paper. 80% of what I print is in color.
I may just have to settle for a multi-function inkjet again. Looking at the Epson WF-7610. Does wide-format printing, auto-duplex printing and auto-duplex copy and scan. $150 for the printer. A set of genuine ink goes for $49 on amazon.
My dilemma is that I need to print things so infrequently that it makes inkjet a less-than-ideal choice. But, when I do need to print, my production requirements are varied and specialized -- photos, labels/envelopes/cardstock, double-sided, etc. A color laser in my price range tends to be mediocre at photos and not very adept at handling specialized paper. 80% of what I print is in color.
I may just have to settle for a multi-function inkjet again. Looking at the Epson WF-7610. Does wide-format printing, auto-duplex printing and auto-duplex copy and scan. $150 for the printer. A set of genuine ink goes for $49 on amazon.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:32 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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A set of genuine ink goes for $49 on amazon.
You got off easy. I had to order ink today for a multi-function HP and it's going to be about $90! We might be approaching the point where a $50 Fire tablet for each employee might be a cheaper way to spread documents in the office
Posted on 1/29/16 at 3:02 pm to TigerinATL
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I had to order ink today for a multi-function HP and it's going to be about $90!
This printer is replacing an HP Officejet. I recall paying about that much for ink for it. It's the HP 940/940XL ink. Decided not to get an officejet this time. The one I had was great when I first got it. The first thing to stop working correctly was the autoduplex. Then the yellow/black print head starting getting clogged constantly. It would inexplicably print a perfect page followed by a totally blank page. I don't expect any better out of a different brand, but at least the ink is cheaper.
Non-genuine ink is super cheap, but there was something weird about the HP ink that refillers couldn't replicate, and I think that's what led to the clogging, because towards the end of its life I was tired of paying so much for cartridges and started getting the generic ones. I imagine the printer companies are fighting back against the non-genuine ink sellers by reformulating their ink and building their printheads to such tight tolerances that refilled ink will destroy them. Or, they want us to think that, and the clogging was just a coincidence. It's possible people who write bad reviews of refill kits and generic cartridges are shills for the printer manufacturers. Printer firmware could be programmed to reduce quality of prints using generic cartridges, or -- even if you use genuine--simulate degradation over time so that the user will buy a new printer, which will of course use a different cartridge design (gotta keep changing the cartridge design so that the generic cartridge manufacturers have to spend as much money as possible to keep up).
I wonder why they don't just cut to the chase and simply reject non-genuine cartridges.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 3:44 pm to TigerMyth36
I have no working color printer in my house.
I use a Brother laser printer for 99.44% of my printing.
On the very rare occasion when I need a color printer, I drop the file to a thumbdrive and take it to the UPS Store.
I use a Brother laser printer for 99.44% of my printing.
On the very rare occasion when I need a color printer, I drop the file to a thumbdrive and take it to the UPS Store.
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