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Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:14 am to dat yat
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I find it curious that New Orleans gets to 17 (flood stage) on 1/9 and stays there for weeks. Is that because it will be maintained at 17 by spillway openings, or is that where the model tops out? The levees are supposed to be 20'.
This is the 2nd or 3rd (open to debate) - 500 year flood in the last 23 years. Most of the river surveys are 40-60 years old. The farmers in the Fore Bay were in the process of trying to get the corp to do new surveys when this started. The Mississippi valley has changed a lot in the last 60 years. It is time for new surveys.
If my memory is correct some of the surveys are 80 years old.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:24 am to GREENHEAD22
Always figured that'd be a job for a terrorist
I'm joking NSA.....
I'm joking NSA.....
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:25 am to jimbeam
All of that kind of talk is why I'm not posting on the thread on the OT
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:32 am to Voorhies7
You seem to know a good bit about this so do not think that would be beneficial to help with the coastal erosion of the SE marshes?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:35 am to GREENHEAD22
You talking about if everything blows out?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:38 am to Voorhies7
Were there any positive sedimentation effects after the 2011 opening?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:40 am to Voorhies7
We actually want those levees to fail up North as it will allow for a slower rise down south. It will also lower the height of the water for some of the cities up North too.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:41 am to Voorhies7
No, this is sort of quick thread hijack. Would it not be beneficial to remove the levees south of Bell Chase from a strictly helping with coastal erosion standpoint. Nothing to do with the high river right now.
I know that levees failing with the high river and the river possibly changing course are very bad things.
I know that levees failing with the high river and the river possibly changing course are very bad things.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 10:42 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:45 am to GREENHEAD22
quote:
No, this is sort of quick thread hijack. Would it not be beneficial to remove the levees south of Bell Chase from a strictly helping with coastal erosion standpoint. Nothing to do with the high river right now.
Yes it would be beneficial to helping re-sediment the marshes but not to the deepwater draft shipping vessels who need the bottom scour to keep the river navigable. .
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:45 am to AlxTgr
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I wish the Red had a spillway.
It does. It's called avoyelles parish.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:46 am to LSUJuice
I can't answer that with facts. I would think there are probably some positive effects, but many negative effects also. Only way continued positive effects become the norm is if the Mississippi is allowed to free flow & flood yearly. That would turn Louisiana into Alabama/Mississippi (only one semi-major port).
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:51 am to 34venture
DATE ARSA4 GEEM6 VCKM6 NTZM6 RRLL1 BTRL1 DONL1 RRVL1 NORL1
01-09-16 46.5 56.0 48.1 53.7 56.0 38.4 27.4 24.0 17.0
01-10-16 47.3 57.4 49.3 54.4 56.5 38.8 27.8 24.0 17.0
01-11-16 47.8 58.6 50.6 55.3 57.2 39.3 28.2 24.0 17.0
01-12-16 48.0 59.3 51.8 56.5 58.1 40.0 28.6 24.0 17.0
01-13-16 48.0 59.7 52.9 57.6 59.2 40.8 29.2 24.0 17.0
01-14-16 47.6 60.0 53.5 58.6 60.2 41.7 29.9 23.9 17.0
01-15-16 46.9 59.9 53.9 59.3 61.2 42.6 30.6 24.0 17.0
01-16-16 45.8 59.5 54.0 59.8 61.8 43.3 31.2 24.0 17.0
01-17-16 44.6 58.9 53.9 60.0 62.3 43.7 31.6 24.0 17.0
01-18-16 43.4 57.9 53.6 60.0 62.5 44.0 31.9 24.0 17.0
01-19-16 42.0 56.8 53.1 59.9 62.5 44.0 32.0 24.0 17.0
01-20-16 40.5 55.8 52.2 59.5 62.5 44.0 32.0 24.0 17.0
01-21-16 39.0 54.6 51.3 58.9 62.0 43.8 32.0 24.0 17.0
01-22-16 37.5 53.3 50.4 58.1 61.4 43.5 31.7 24.0 17.0
01-23-16 36.1 52.0 49.3 57.3 60.7 42.9 31.3 24.0 17.0
01-24-16 34.7 50.7 48.2 56.4 59.9 42.2 30.9 24.0 17.0
01-25-16 33.4 49.5 47.1 55.5 59.1 41.6 30.4 24.0 17.0
01-26-16 32.1 48.3 45.9 54.5 58.2 40.9 29.8 24.0 17.0
01-27-16 30.7 47.1 44.9 53.5 57.3 40.1 29.3 24.0 17.0
For those of you counting that is saying that the levees in New Orleans will be at 17 feet for AT LEAST 18 days. This is a significant amount of pressure on our levees. There are some real problem issues with the levees on the west-side of the Mississippi River within a 100 miles of New Orleans that have been leaking underneath the levee for years.
01-09-16 46.5 56.0 48.1 53.7 56.0 38.4 27.4 24.0 17.0
01-10-16 47.3 57.4 49.3 54.4 56.5 38.8 27.8 24.0 17.0
01-11-16 47.8 58.6 50.6 55.3 57.2 39.3 28.2 24.0 17.0
01-12-16 48.0 59.3 51.8 56.5 58.1 40.0 28.6 24.0 17.0
01-13-16 48.0 59.7 52.9 57.6 59.2 40.8 29.2 24.0 17.0
01-14-16 47.6 60.0 53.5 58.6 60.2 41.7 29.9 23.9 17.0
01-15-16 46.9 59.9 53.9 59.3 61.2 42.6 30.6 24.0 17.0
01-16-16 45.8 59.5 54.0 59.8 61.8 43.3 31.2 24.0 17.0
01-17-16 44.6 58.9 53.9 60.0 62.3 43.7 31.6 24.0 17.0
01-18-16 43.4 57.9 53.6 60.0 62.5 44.0 31.9 24.0 17.0
01-19-16 42.0 56.8 53.1 59.9 62.5 44.0 32.0 24.0 17.0
01-20-16 40.5 55.8 52.2 59.5 62.5 44.0 32.0 24.0 17.0
01-21-16 39.0 54.6 51.3 58.9 62.0 43.8 32.0 24.0 17.0
01-22-16 37.5 53.3 50.4 58.1 61.4 43.5 31.7 24.0 17.0
01-23-16 36.1 52.0 49.3 57.3 60.7 42.9 31.3 24.0 17.0
01-24-16 34.7 50.7 48.2 56.4 59.9 42.2 30.9 24.0 17.0
01-25-16 33.4 49.5 47.1 55.5 59.1 41.6 30.4 24.0 17.0
01-26-16 32.1 48.3 45.9 54.5 58.2 40.9 29.8 24.0 17.0
01-27-16 30.7 47.1 44.9 53.5 57.3 40.1 29.3 24.0 17.0
For those of you counting that is saying that the levees in New Orleans will be at 17 feet for AT LEAST 18 days. This is a significant amount of pressure on our levees. There are some real problem issues with the levees on the west-side of the Mississippi River within a 100 miles of New Orleans that have been leaking underneath the levee for years.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:51 am to Voorhies7
Or just move everything to where Morgan City was, I know, a lot easier said than done but look what the Chinese have done with their whole country in the past 20 years. Granted its mostly all shoddy as hell but still, business would get it done, to much money not to.
Te smart thing would actually probable start planning for it and let it switch some years down the road. It is inevitably going to happen anyway.
Te smart thing would actually probable start planning for it and let it switch some years down the road. It is inevitably going to happen anyway.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:55 am to GREENHEAD22
If we don't the Mississippi will. Might be this year. Might be is 100 years. New Orleans continues to sink & we continue to lose coast line. Worst case scenario- Mississippi blows out. Salt water comes in & we get hit with a major hurricane this summer. The gulf is warm.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:56 am to Voorhies7
I wonder how much water the underwater River is pumping out into the Gulf right. Absolutely crazy that there is a river under the river which pumps out freshwater into the Gulf.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:02 am to ihometiger
Errett says the Corps is already preparing for flooding in the New Orleans area.
Coast Guard Closing 76 mile stretch of Miss River
Coast Guard Closing 76 mile stretch of Miss River
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:03 am to 34venture
quote:Will the Little Riverites be packing up their appliances this time?
It does. It's called avoyelles parish.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:04 am to ihometiger
Huh, river under the river? What is this you speak of? I fancy myself a decently informed person and have never heard of this.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:05 am to ihometiger
I've gotten stuck in the tunica hills halfway down a 200ft hill when it hasn't rained in a month & a half. Front end sunk to the frame. Water shelfs rise & fail like the river. It is amazing.
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