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Antman was atrocious (spoilers)
Posted on 7/17/15 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 7/17/15 at 6:11 pm
Written from my phone so expect errors.
I wanted to like this movie. I drove like mad to make it to the 4:30 show.
I don't know how this movie has gotten good critic and fan reviews. Most of the movie, I could t quite decide if the movie was ok, bad, or atrocious and I've finally decided on atrocious.
But first, the good.
I liked Michael Douglas. There were two or three action scenes I liked. The suits looked really cool. I really liked the heist scene of breaking into Pym's house. I'd have loved to see more scenes like that. I chuckled once.
But man, from the first scene, I was frowning with how the movie was portrayed. Clunky exposition repeatedly. The jokes for Rudd were written well, but terrible in execution. Most of the other humor was just flat out insulting. The 3 sidekick thieves are Michael Bay level insulting. The worst joke in the entire movie might have been the joke about the ant looking like a dog.
The CGI was really really really bad for the most part. The ants looked exceptionally bad. Watching the groups of ants moving around was just an eyesore. I did like the shrinking and growing effects though.
Stoll was awful as Cross. Just really couldn't believe what I was seeing. He's just such a caricature and they keep on trying to give him depth but it all comes across as flat or fake. Then they throw in the line with 20 minutes left in the movie that its the chemical exposures that are making him crazy. WTF.
There's no tension in this movie at all. A movie needs some tension no matter what it is otherwise, what do we care what happens
The drama between the father and daughter Pym was cheesy and boring and felt like filler.
I'm just scratching the surface. Very disappointed
I wanted to like this movie. I drove like mad to make it to the 4:30 show.
I don't know how this movie has gotten good critic and fan reviews. Most of the movie, I could t quite decide if the movie was ok, bad, or atrocious and I've finally decided on atrocious.
But first, the good.
I liked Michael Douglas. There were two or three action scenes I liked. The suits looked really cool. I really liked the heist scene of breaking into Pym's house. I'd have loved to see more scenes like that. I chuckled once.
But man, from the first scene, I was frowning with how the movie was portrayed. Clunky exposition repeatedly. The jokes for Rudd were written well, but terrible in execution. Most of the other humor was just flat out insulting. The 3 sidekick thieves are Michael Bay level insulting. The worst joke in the entire movie might have been the joke about the ant looking like a dog.
The CGI was really really really bad for the most part. The ants looked exceptionally bad. Watching the groups of ants moving around was just an eyesore. I did like the shrinking and growing effects though.
Stoll was awful as Cross. Just really couldn't believe what I was seeing. He's just such a caricature and they keep on trying to give him depth but it all comes across as flat or fake. Then they throw in the line with 20 minutes left in the movie that its the chemical exposures that are making him crazy. WTF.
There's no tension in this movie at all. A movie needs some tension no matter what it is otherwise, what do we care what happens
The drama between the father and daughter Pym was cheesy and boring and felt like filler.
I'm just scratching the surface. Very disappointed
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 7/17/15 at 6:25 pm to athenslife101
I'm surprised this thread wasn't started by Carson....
I haven't seen the movie yet but the last couple of Marvel movies have felt like that for me. Like nothing was at stake and Marvel was just like "hey it's a superhero on screen that will be in Avengers...just enjoy it."
At least Winter Solider and GoG there were risks and things at stake, but Age of Ultron and probably Ant-man....no tension, nothing at stake, just a regular ole action flick
I haven't seen the movie yet but the last couple of Marvel movies have felt like that for me. Like nothing was at stake and Marvel was just like "hey it's a superhero on screen that will be in Avengers...just enjoy it."
At least Winter Solider and GoG there were risks and things at stake, but Age of Ultron and probably Ant-man....no tension, nothing at stake, just a regular ole action flick
Posted on 7/17/15 at 6:30 pm to athenslife101
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Stoll was awful as Cross.
That guy has a really good agent.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:40 pm to athenslife101
If you didn't laugh at the giant toy train engine, there may not be a proctologist alive skilled enough to remove the stick from your arse.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:57 pm to WicKed WayZ
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I haven't seen the movie yet but the last couple of Marvel movies have felt like that for me. Like nothing was at stake and Marvel was just like "hey it's a superhero on screen that will be in Avengers...just enjoy it."
At least Winter Solider and GoG there were risks and things at stake, but Age of Ultron and probably Ant-man....no tension, nothing at stake, just a regular ole action flick
I was very disappointed with Ultron. It wasn't bad, but Ultron wasn't even close to as badass as he should have been. Tens of millions should have been killed by Ultron, which would perfectly set up Civil War. Instead Loki has a higher death count. There needed to be some ultra-violence in that film. Granted, it wouldn't shock me if this is more Disney's fault than Whedon's. I could see executives saying "No way are you going to have Ultron kill everyone in Seoul and Johannesburg." But Ultron should have been more powerful and more violent to where you feel as if he's a true threat to the planet. His death count may have not entered the 3 digit range, and Loki easily did that just from escaping from SHIELD's headquarters.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:12 pm to OMLandshark
There's just no set up to Ultron. He literally transforms from a mere idea to a mustache-twirling villain in a matter of minutes. He's only evil because the plot needs him to be. Bad, bad storytelling in that movie.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:41 pm to JombieZombie
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There's just no set up to Ultron. He literally transforms from a mere idea to a mustache-twirling villain in a matter of minutes. He's only evil because the plot needs him to be. Bad, bad storytelling in that movie.
Ultron speaks very badly for Tony Stark's inner psyche. Really it just said that deep down, Stark is a genocidal mad-man who deep down wishes to wipe out any flawed being.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:50 pm to OMLandshark
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Ultron speaks very badly for Tony Stark's inner psyche. Really it just said that deep down, Stark is a genocidal mad-man who deep down wishes to wipe out any flawed being.
Isn't everybody?
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:51 pm to athenslife101
I just saw your title but figure I should just say "DC fanboy". It's obligatory...
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:56 pm to athenslife101
i was expecting a lot more of the plot to tie into the avengers story line just like thor and guardians. the thor movies arent necessarily the best but the avengers story line is set up so much by the thor movies. this movie seemed a unnecessary, but i did enjoy it.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:19 pm to PsychTiger
That joke wasn't earned.
Avengers 2 was enjoyable but lacking in substance.
I do like DC comics more but I generally like marvel movies more. I actually thought TDKR was one of the worst comic book movies ever.
Avengers 2 was enjoyable but lacking in substance.
I do like DC comics more but I generally like marvel movies more. I actually thought TDKR was one of the worst comic book movies ever.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:22 pm to WicKed WayZ
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At least Winter Solider and GoG there were risks and things at stake, but Age of Ultron and probably Ant-man....no tension, nothing at stake, just a regular ole action flick
Yeah Ultron felt pretty freaking weak, I think its because the logical conclusion-- everyone being super freaking pissed at Tony for making a genocidal murder bot was put off until Civil War.
By far the best thing Marvel's put out since GoG is the Daredevil Miniseries.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:31 pm to athenslife101
If I remember correctly, you didn't like GotG either. I'm not surprised that you didn't like this one.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:34 pm to abellsujr
Wait seriously, how can someone not like GotG, that shite was Star Wars for a new generation- humor, action, romance and a bitching sound track.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:27 am to OMLandshark
quote:
I was very disappointed with Ultron. It wasn't bad, but Ultron wasn't even close to as badass as he should have been. Tens of millions should have been killed by Ultron, which would perfectly set up Civil War. Instead Loki has a higher death count. There needed to be some ultra-violence in that film. Granted, it wouldn't shock me if this is more Disney's fault than Whedon's. I could see executives saying "No way are you going to have Ultron kill everyone in Seoul and Johannesburg." But Ultron should have been more powerful and more violent to where you feel as if he's a true threat to the planet. His death count may have not entered the 3 digit range, and Loki easily did that just from escaping from SHIELD's headquarters.
I couldn't agree more. They made Ultron a cartoon...
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:29 am to montanagator
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Wait seriously, how can someone not like GotG, that shite was Star Wars for a new generation- humor, action, romance and a bitching sound track.
Yeah I am pretty much ignoring the OP...he is wrong.
Antman was a decent but not spectacular origin story...far and away better then Avengers 2. I think another movie or two and Rudd will be Scott Lang.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:56 am to asurob1
I found that Ant-Man was more fluid and more of a complete film than Ultron. And I say that even with the record scratches in Ant-Man that occurred with every mention of the Avengers.
The Avengers stuff seemed to be forced into the script. The entire assault on Avengers bunker seemed like an added scene.
The action was okay, but once you've seen Iron Man soar or Thor fight Frost Giants or Steve Rogers jump on a grenade... running around with ants seems pretty tame.
The fight scenes were pretty blah. We've seen fight scenes with teleporters in the X-Men movies that looked fairly cool. Ant-Man appearing and punching just wasn't anything special.
But it was decent and didn't get too stupid. I really think they were trying to play it safe and just get a decent movie out on schedule.
The Avengers stuff seemed to be forced into the script. The entire assault on Avengers bunker seemed like an added scene.
The action was okay, but once you've seen Iron Man soar or Thor fight Frost Giants or Steve Rogers jump on a grenade... running around with ants seems pretty tame.
The fight scenes were pretty blah. We've seen fight scenes with teleporters in the X-Men movies that looked fairly cool. Ant-Man appearing and punching just wasn't anything special.
But it was decent and didn't get too stupid. I really think they were trying to play it safe and just get a decent movie out on schedule.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 1:24 am to montanagator
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Yeah Ultron felt pretty freaking weak, I think its because the logical conclusion-- everyone being super freaking pissed at Tony for making a genocidal murder bot was put off until Civil War.
I really feel this is more the studio's interference though than Whedon's incompetence. To do Ultron appropriately, it has to be incredibly dark, fricked up, and genocidal. I think all Disney would allow Whedon to do was hint at these things. The way he talked about Ultron even years before the film, he was clearly talking about a heavily disturbed mass murderer who was absolutely ruthless and self loathing.
Ultron's character largely came off as such, but his actions were just pathetic. I just don't understand why Ultron took Black Widow alive instead of ripping her in half on the spot. She could only serve to frick him over, and Ultron has no reason to take her hostage. This is just one of many of Ultron's ridiculous mistakes to make him defeatable and largely not a threat.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 2:08 am to athenslife101
I enjoyed it for what it it was, a fun heist film. Rudd was great.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 2:13 am to craigbiggio
The cameo by Garrett Morris was inspired. Good on whoever thought to include him.
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