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OT History Thread: Top 10 Bloodies Battles of WWII
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:22 pm
Found this on my FB feed and found it pretty interesting. It puts things into perspective on just how horrible the Eastern Front of WWII really was....
10. The Battle for France – 1940
Casualties are estimated at 517,000, 70% of which were French.
9. Narva
Estimated casualties: 550,000, 87% of them Russian.
8. Battle for Berlin
Casualties are estimated at 680,000, this excludes captured German soldiers (another 480.000)
7. Operation Bagration 1944
Total number of soldiers engaged in this battle: 2,556,793, casualty estimates range from 528,000 – 1,430,000, or 20% to 55%
6. Battle for Moscow, 1941
Casualty estimates range from 824,000 to 1.6800.000, with 3 times more casualties on the Russian side.
5. The battles for Kursk, 1943
Over 6,132,000 soldiers were engaged in this battle, total casualties are estimated around 1,038,862 (16,9%)
4. Siege of Leningrad
Casualties are estimated between 1,117,000 and 4,500,000
3. Battle for Stalingrad 1942 – 1943
Casualties are estimated from 1,250,000 to 1,798,000.
2. Dniepr Campaign, 1944
Casualties range from a low estimate of 1,582,000 to up to 2,480,000.
1. Operation Barbarossa
Around 6,480,000 soldiers were engaged in this battle, casualties range from a low estimate of 1,400,000 (21,6%) to up to 5,000,000 (77,1%).
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10. The Battle for France – 1940
Casualties are estimated at 517,000, 70% of which were French.
9. Narva
Estimated casualties: 550,000, 87% of them Russian.
8. Battle for Berlin
Casualties are estimated at 680,000, this excludes captured German soldiers (another 480.000)
7. Operation Bagration 1944
Total number of soldiers engaged in this battle: 2,556,793, casualty estimates range from 528,000 – 1,430,000, or 20% to 55%
6. Battle for Moscow, 1941
Casualty estimates range from 824,000 to 1.6800.000, with 3 times more casualties on the Russian side.
5. The battles for Kursk, 1943
Over 6,132,000 soldiers were engaged in this battle, total casualties are estimated around 1,038,862 (16,9%)
4. Siege of Leningrad
Casualties are estimated between 1,117,000 and 4,500,000
3. Battle for Stalingrad 1942 – 1943
Casualties are estimated from 1,250,000 to 1,798,000.
2. Dniepr Campaign, 1944
Casualties range from a low estimate of 1,582,000 to up to 2,480,000.
1. Operation Barbarossa
Around 6,480,000 soldiers were engaged in this battle, casualties range from a low estimate of 1,400,000 (21,6%) to up to 5,000,000 (77,1%).
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:27 pm to Darth_Vader
Lots of dead Russians... don't care.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:27 pm to Darth_Vader
Nice find.
before looking at it I figured Stalingrad and Leningrad where among the worst.
before looking at it I figured Stalingrad and Leningrad where among the worst.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:31 pm to 68wDoc68w
It amazes me the opening salvo of the Eastern Front was the bloodiest and yet Russia & Germany went on to fight tooth and nail for almost 4 more years while sustaining losses in the millions. Imagine if the US were faced with such a prospect today.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:36 pm to Darth_Vader
Russia had a seemingly endless supply of meat for the grinder. They always seemed to sustain disproportionally high losses and still kept coming.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:38 pm to blueboy
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Russia had a seemingly endless supply of meat for the grinder. They always seemed to sustain disproportionally high losses and still kept coming.
Yep... they just kept sending in fresh bodies. By the end of the war they had lost something like 25,000,000 people. The US lost a little over 400,000 by comparison.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:38 pm to blueboy
Did WW2 destroy Russia's population, or have they always had a small population?
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:45 pm to Darth_Vader
Nothing kills white people as well as other white people.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:48 pm to Sellecks Moustache
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Did WW2 destroy Russia's population, or have they always had a small population?
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:52 pm to Darth_Vader
I guess it's just reflective of the technology and record keeping of the period, but it's crazy to see the discrepancies in the estimates. Between 1 million and 5 million is kind of a big.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:52 pm to terd ferguson
I'm not taking this shite from you.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:56 pm to terd ferguson
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Yep... they just kept sending in fresh bodies. By the end of the war they had lost something like 25,000,000 people. The US lost a little over 400,000 by comparison.
Keep in mind that less than 10 years before the Germans invaded in 1941, the Soviet Union had a famine (thanks to Stalin) in the Ukraine that killed somewhere between 2.4 to 7.5 million people. And on top of that, the Red Army had gone though the Great Purge where....
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The purge of the Red Army and Military Maritime Fleet removed three of five marshals (then equivalent to five-star generals), 13 of 15 army commanders (then equivalent to three- and four-star generals), eight of nine admirals (the purge fell heavily on the Navy, who were suspected of exploiting their opportunities for foreign contacts),[29] 50 of 57 army corps commanders, 154 out of 186 division commanders, 16 of 16 army commissars, and 25 of 28 army corps commissars
And then there was the wider aspects of the Great Purge....
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According to the declassified Soviet archives, during 1937 and 1938, the NKVD detained 1,548,366 persons, of whom 681,692 were shot - an average of 1,000 executions a day
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Following the collapse of the Soviet Union, numerous mass graves filled with executed victims of the terror were discovered.[87][88][89][90] Some, such as the killing fields at Kurapaty near Minsk and Bykivnia near Kiev, are believed to contain up to 200,000 corpses.[91][better source needed]
In 2007, one such site, the Butovo firing range near Moscow, was turned into a shrine to the victims of Stalinism. Between August 1937 and October 1938, more than 20,000 people were shot and buried there.
And don't forget that this was less than a generation after the Russian Civil War where about 2.7 million Russians died right on the heels of World War I where between 2.8 million and 3.3 million Russians died.
Long story short... The first half of the 20th Century was a bad time to be Russian.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:04 pm to sicboy
How the frick do you know I have a crustache? You guys are assholes.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:32 pm to terd ferguson
Surprised that none of the the Sino-Japanese battles made the top ten, based on the casualties of those two countries.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:18 pm to Darth_Vader
Cool photos and cool thread. Thanks for posting.
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