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re: 7 Things I Can Do That My Black Son Can’t
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:06 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:06 pm to StrongSafety
quote:None of the things on that list. That's for sure. Hell, the bulk of the list could just well be titled "normal human shite".
What is racism to you?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:13 pm to StrongSafety
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What is racism to you?
Have you ever defined it on this board? If so, I must have missed it. Please give me a definition and I'll answer your question.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:18 pm to Zach
quote:LOL.
Have you ever defined it on this board? If so, I must have missed it. Please give me a definition and I'll answer your question.
Hence why I didn't get roped in to it. If he thinks the stuff on the list is racism, he should say so. Alas, he's playing coy and wants to switch the discussion to whatever definition he thought he'd get from me and then ignore the OP.
Nice try, I'll give him that.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:29 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Truly this is why I despise "affirmative action". It's an open insult to the people it claims to help.
2. I Can Succeed Without It Being Attributed to My Race
That said, he's wrong. Because any success he has will be attributed to "white privilege".
quote:This is even sillier. His examples are the ancestors of the founding of America. I consider Black people to be Americans. We share a common history. Not a separate one.
3. I Learned About My Ancestors’ History in School
It's a shame what we're becoming as a culture.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:37 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Every bit of that list could be indicative of racism. Likewise, every bit of it could be done in an entirely color-blind way. Every bit of it comes down to individual behavior and attitude, not generalities.
If he thinks the stuff on the list is racism
If it happens to you, and you're black, you might well suspect racism. That suspicion may or may not be true. Regardless, as it goes untested, perception becomes reality. That ensuing "black perspective" may not be fair. It may not be accurate. But those facts will go undiscovered.
The other side of the argument re: "white perception" is identical.
Social generalities are often little more than a crapshoot.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:18 pm to ShortyRob
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7. I Can Count on Being Met on My Own Terms
If I’m being treated poorly, I don’t stop and think about whether it’s due to my race. But unless we somehow make a giant leap forward, my son will always have to wonder.
Recently, I became a father for the second time. My daughter, only three months old, will grow up to face many of the same challenges as my son, on top of the extra ones that come with being a woman: the struggle for equal pay, the catcalling, the constant threat of sexual assault.
I don’t want to give my children a complex about all of this, but I can’t wish these problems away, either. I can’t eliminate all the unfair hurdles that exist in the world. I can only do my best to raise kids who are able to jump over them.
I dont even know what to say.
I am a white dude with a black wife and kids.
This dude is a fricking Yahoo. Fitting he writes for them.
My wife has had more black people call her out for marrying white than any white person has EVER done. She won't live in Louisiana because of the black people there. (She is from Texas)
While I was in the military, almost every black women would tell her shite in passing.
Black dudes often would just stare at me.
I know there are racist on all sides, but from my personal experience growing up in Louisiana and living in Texas, Florida, and Nevada, we get more shite from black people than anything else.
Although, this one story is quite funny. I had this white couple come up to me while I was holding my daughter. My wife wasn't around at the time. The lady said, "oh we have one of those too".
I was confused for a second and said, "one of what?"
She goes, "a black baby"...
I told her its not some fricking club and left.
I was a church....LOL.
I never understood why some of these white yahoo's adopt/marry a different race with that mindset.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:39 pm to JayDeerTay84
I agree. I tend to wonder how people of color can tolerate being around white people like this guy. I find them to be the most racist because it's like they're saying their wives and children will never be as successful or respected as they could be if they were white. I, personally, would take offense to that if I were in their shoes.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i get heated talking about this, too, because those pieces of shite destroy the educational opportunities of plenty of good kids
Compulsory public education has long outlived its usefulness.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:14 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:00 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
. I Can Walk Through a Store Without Being Followed
Um, that's not racism.
Yes it is.
Don't agree with the rest though.
And props to JayDeer
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:12 pm to ShortyRob
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1. I Can Walk Through a Store Without Being Followed
I spent practically the whole afternoon with my wife and daughter at Mall of Louisiana today. I don't like shopping so much, but I am an avid people-watcher. In each store we'd go to, I'd find a chair and try to spot black folks being followed. No shortage of black folks there today, either. I saw nothing that looked like people being followed.
Anecdotal, I know, but call me skeptical. I think this complaint might possibly be overblown.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:30 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Um. That's silly. Even BLACKS think successful blacks may have gotten there via quotas, tokenism etc etc. Take your complaint up with reality.
No just no. I have experienced the exact opposite
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:42 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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Anecdotal, I know, but call me skeptical. I think this complaint might possibly be overblown
Trust me, it happens.
Not in every store, and for sure not as often as a generation or two ago, but yeah, I've lost count of the number of times I've been followed and/or closely watched in a store.
It's a discomfiting experience.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:48 pm to Crimson1st
quote:
Posted by Crimson1st quote: The OPs son will most likely be a failure That's what that mind set produces That and the friends his son will probably gravitate to by the aura he puts out...it's one heck of a cycle that has to be broken but chances are it won't be when you're always the victim!
I doubt it. His son probably attends an elite prep school and will land a cush job making millions after graduating from an ivy league college. It is more about class and life choices than race. However race often determines your class which in turn effects your life choices.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:50 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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In each store we'd go to, I'd find a chair and try to spot black folks being followed.
seems healthy
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:52 pm to boosiebadazz
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seems healthy
And/or creepy.
I just figured it out: he didn't see any black folks being followed because the respective store owners were watching HIS arse
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:55 pm to the808bass
quote:
Posted by the808bass on 12/28 at 5:47 pm to SlowFlowPro quote: i get heated talking about this, too, because those pieces of shite destroy the educational opportunities of plenty of good kids Compulsory public education has long outlived its usefulness.
Yes and it mostly hurts poor students who are trying to make a better life for themselves but cannot because there are yahoos in the their class who do not want to learn and will prevent everyone from receiving an education.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:26 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Things I Can Do That My Black Son Can’t
Swim?
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:30 pm to Al Dante
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Al Dante
It's been done.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:36 pm to FT
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It's been done.
I figured it was too obvious not to have been done already but went with it.
The thing that struck me about the article was how he mentions in passing he doesn't "want to give his kids a complex about this." With his attitude they most definitely will have a complex. They'll get older and read this piece their own father wrote and it will shape them.
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