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re: Post office beats UPS and FedEx for packages
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:03 pm to jonboy
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:03 pm to jonboy
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Too bad the USPS has to to pay for use of roads & airways. Such a competitive disadvantage *sarcasm*
The United States Post Office is, by statute, exempt from paying state excise taxes on fuel, not that I would know anything about any of that.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:21 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
In my experience, FedEx is the best.
USPS screws everything up, and their customer service and ability to correct their mistakes are pathetic.
USPS screws everything up, and their customer service and ability to correct their mistakes are pathetic.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:30 pm to Scoop
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UPS handed over a package of mine to USPS for Saturday delivery just a couple of weeks ago and the package fell off the face of the Earth never to be seen again.
Tried to call them and never even got on the phone with anyone. Just sat on hold for half an hour.
Had to just go talk to Amazon.
This exact same thing happened to me this year.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:08 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Post office beats UPS and FedEx for packages
UPS and FedEx get government subsidies in the form of the interstate high way system, US federal highways, state highways and county and city roads. They also enjoy government services in air-traffic control. So the idea that UPS and FedEx are totally private and get no help from the taxpayers is false. They can also enjoy taxpayer funded courts to help settle disputes they have and tax-payer supported snow plows on roads. So once again they are also parasites.
Do you not understand that public money to build roads and bridges must come from the private sector first, (i,e, corporate, individual, gasoline and sales taxes)? The USPS lost $16 billion in 2013 and should have been shuttered long ago. Why are basic economics so cumbersome for the left?
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 8:17 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:09 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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This is from consumers reports. In cost and reliability the the USPS beats the so-called better private industry.
How many tax dollars will the USPS need to keep running this year?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:04 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Let the post office die.
Withdraw its life support.
It's life has no meaning now.
Withdraw its life support.
It's life has no meaning now.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:20 am to Joshjrn
quote:Someone hasn't used Amazon Prime in the last two years.
Amazon Prime. Two day shipping via UPS
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:53 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Should you ever initiate a business of your own Ralph, the USPS is the business model you would least want to emulate.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:21 am to Iosh
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Someone hasn't used Amazon Prime in the last two years
Use it multiple times a month and 90% of my packages come from UPS in 1 day.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:30 am to MFn GIMP
quote:Amazon still uses Fedex/UPS for same-day. But two-day Prime shipping is almost all either straight-up USPS or something like Surepost which is UPS/USPS with USPS doing the last mile. They cut some kind of deal with the USPS that gives them lower rates and Sunday delivery but unfortunately means customers have to deal with random delays covered up with phantom "attempted deliveries." Combine that with the precipitous drop in two-day eligible items and Prime is mainly a streaming service with ancillary shipping benefits, rather than the other way around.
Use it multiple times a month and 90% of my packages come from UPS in 1 day.
EDIT: I guess Jeff Bezos is lurking on TD I'm far from the only person to make this observation. LINK LINK LINK
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:59 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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UPS and FedEx get government subsidies in the form of the interstate high way system, US federal highways, state highways and county and city roads. They also enjoy government services in air-traffic control. So the idea that UPS and FedEx are totally private and get no help from the taxpayers is false.
Either way, it's a beyond-stupid post.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:34 am to Reubaltaich
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Does UPS & FedEx have billions on UNFUNDED liabilities in health care and retirement benefits?
You do know that Congress mandated the USPS pre-fund 75 years worth of retirement benefits in only 10 years, right? So, no, UPS and FedEx do not have billions in unfunded liabilities, because Congress is not trying to kill them off.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:37 am to member12
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In my experience, FedEx is the best.
USPS screws everything up, and their customer service and ability to correct their mistakes are pathetic.
My experience as well. Fed Ex is the best by far, and UPS and the USPS are about equal in reliability. I can get items as fast with the USPS and I can UPS here, but they both use Alaska Airlines for their cargo locally. Fed Ex has dedicated aircraft.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:47 am to Ralph_Wiggum
My wife is a strictly online shopper. We get a package every single day. I asked her about the services over the last 10 years. She ranked them:
Top: UPS
Medium: Fed Ex
Worst: USPS
BTW, ralph, your post on them being subsidized by the govt because they use roads is very cute. Are you gonna vote for Pocahontas?
Top: UPS
Medium: Fed Ex
Worst: USPS
BTW, ralph, your post on them being subsidized by the govt because they use roads is very cute. Are you gonna vote for Pocahontas?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:57 am to Jake88
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Which one is actually profitable? Oh, my bad, that doesn't matter to Communists.
Jesus Christ. The USPS had been profitable for decades (well, intentionally break-even), and would still be so if a certain group of people weren't hellbent on privatizing all the things.
You guys are propping up UPS and FedEx as heroes, and looking at the USPS as a taxpayer dollar money pit, but apparently have zero clue as to what's going on. Congress placed huge liabilities on the USPS that no other entity has to take on, and they also set the price of a stamp. How profitable would UPS and FedEx be if it literally took an act of Congress in order to increase revenue?
So once the dismantlement is complete, and the postal service is sold off, I can assure you that the congressionally mandated liabilities that are preventing the USPS from being self-sufficient will go away. Also, I'm pretty confident that UPS and FedEx (or whoever ends up with the old USPS) will end up getting some sort of government assistance in order to deliver to all of the unprofitable addresses that the USPS currently services.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:59 am to Korkstand
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You guys are propping up UPS and FedEx as heroes,
Like lefties do with the USPS? I suppose that's different though..
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:00 pm to Radiojones
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Interesting that solvency was not one of the factors considered. I wonder how the USPS would have performed if they had to break even much less not be a parasite on the taxpayers.
This is what makes the idiot communists so comical.
They live in some sort of unicorn land where if I can do something in 2 days for $100 and they can provide in 1.5 days for $1,000,000, they call the latter superior to the former.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:02 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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In cost and reliability the the USPS beats the so-called better private industry.
Does cost include taxes paid by us that goes to post office?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:04 pm to Radiojones
quote:The USPS does break even, and has done so for a long time. The current "parasitic" nature was forced on the USPS by the 2006 Republican Congress.
I wonder how the USPS would have performed if they had to break even much less not be a parasite on the taxpayers.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:09 pm to Korkstand
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The USPS does break even, and has done so for a long time. The current "parasitic" nature was forced on the USPS by the 2006 Republican Congress.
Which is the problem with government planning. Market based industry >>> govt funding.
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