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re: Odds are that an 11-5 NFC team will be left out for the first time

Posted on 12/9/14 at 5:05 am to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 5:05 am to
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There ought to be a floor for the record a division champ can have and still be an automatic qualifier for the playoffs. My vote would be a .500 record.

The idea of a team like this year's Saints or Falcons making the playoffs with a record 4 games under .500 ought to make anyone with a mind for fairness uncomfortable.


You win the division, you prove yourself as the best team out of four teams in a 16 team conference with a 6 team playoff format. There is very little more fair than that.

People are ignoring that all of the entire NFC South's teams being really shitty is not normal and but they are still a part of a 16 team conference competing against 12 other teams and the best team out of those 4 teams deserve to be rewarded.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6508 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:06 am to
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quote: There ought to be a floor for the record a division champ can have and still be an automatic qualifier for the playoffs. My vote would be a .500 record. The idea of a team like this year's Saints or Falcons making the playoffs with a record 4 games under .500 ought to make anyone with a mind for fairness uncomfortable. You win the division, you prove yourself as the best team out of four teams in a 16 team conference with a 6 team playoff format. There is very little more fair than that. People are ignoring that all of the entire NFC South's teams being really shitty is not normal and but they are still a part of a 16 team conference competing against 12 other teams and the best team out of those 4 teams deserve to be rewarded.


While I don't necessarily have a problem with division winners automatically qualifying because it's an agreed apon precondition, why does the least shitty of the four shittiest teams "deserve" to be rewarded?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36357 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:57 am to
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You win the division, you prove yourself as the best team out of four teams in a 16 team conference with a 6 team playoff format. There is very little more fair than that.

People are ignoring that all of the entire NFC South's teams being really shitty is not normal and but they are still a part of a 16 team conference competing against 12 other teams and the best team out of those 4 teams deserve to be rewarded.



Within reason I could agree with you, but when the winner of a division isn't above .500 that logic falls apart.

A winner of a division deserves some benefit of the doubt if everything else were equal, but when an entire division does poorly in out of division play (as is the case when the winner is not even .500) the division as a whole is suspect and forfeits their right to a representative IMO.

The premise of awarding every division winner deserving a playoff bid is that schedules are unequal and you can't always determine the relative quality of different divisions. The schedules are indeed likely unequal when a sub .500 team wins a division, but they are mostly unequal because theirs was weaker (and less deserving of a playoff bid).
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