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Are younger voters ripe to be converted to Libertarianism?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:14 pm
And if so how does the movement break through the 2 party chokehold?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:17 pm to weagle99
2 more yrs of this abortion and they'll be ripe for a lot of things
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:17 pm to weagle99
No, younger voters are more likely to be democrats. They want everything now and don't want to work for it. And their parents are to blame. Younger voters have been given everything and in return they gave nothing and therefore were taught nothing.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:19 pm to weagle99
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And if so how does the movement break through the 2 party chokehold?
I don't know about that. I believe that most are not ready to be true Libertarians until they reach mid 30s. I think that one has to live life for awhile in order to respect and understand what freedom really is. Sure, you can convert a few young kids who support only the cause of legal drugs but they will not stand fully behind the cause because they don't understand it and only want one thing.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:22 pm to JOJO Hammer
that's totally rational and doesn't contain a smidgen of presumption.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:22 pm to JOJO Hammer
You talk to a lot of young people JOJO?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:24 pm to JOJO Hammer
I think young voters are pretty libertarian already. like more personal choice/ freedom on the social issues. and rejects big government because of the last two presidents.. but i doubt it means a creation of a legitimate 3rd party. If i had to guess, it divides the GOP until one side wins.
el oh el... maybe if there were jobs to be had, the young generation would work. But then again the oldies had to take the greatest nation to have ever been on this earth and run it into the ground because they never properly learned how to pay for stuff that you want. you know wanting something now and not wanting to work for it. and really i doubt they ever learned the true definition of freedom.
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No, younger voters are more likely to be democrats. They want everything now and don't want to work for it. And their parents are to blame. Younger voters have been given everything and in return they gave nothing and therefore were taught nothing.
el oh el... maybe if there were jobs to be had, the young generation would work. But then again the oldies had to take the greatest nation to have ever been on this earth and run it into the ground because they never properly learned how to pay for stuff that you want. you know wanting something now and not wanting to work for it. and really i doubt they ever learned the true definition of freedom.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:24 pm to JOJO Hammer
I've been a Libertarian since high school.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:29 pm to rintintin
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that's totally rational and doesn't contain a smidgen of presumption.
I believe that a few would rally to the cause because they understand it but it would be a very small number. How old were the Founding Fathers when they wrote the Declaration of Independence? Some were younger but the vast majority were over 33. People are also most creative in the mid 30s and I think that is because we have lived enough to understand life, to a degree, and have developed the ability to think outside of the box.
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:34 pm to Aubie Spr96
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No, younger voters are more likely to be democrats. They want everything now and don't want to work for it. And their parents are to blame. Younger voters have been given everything and in return they gave nothing and therefore were taught nothing.
yep, many are so plugged into the system they claim to rebel against, they are fit for nothing but being long term state wards.
It's not just that "things are given to them" they are taught that they are "owed" everything and somehow through the process of leveling the playing field what someone else has is rightfully theirs, most are stupid enough to believe reparations are just an offshoot of the great society and the bastardization of the "for the general welfare" phrase in the constitution any of their statist ideas are justified. Most Democrats identify themselves as "Democratic Socialists" now, and many don't really see any difference any more in that and the Democrat party that was JFK and LBJ.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:36 pm to JOJO Hammer
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No, younger voters are more likely to be democrats. They want everything now and don't want to work for it. And their parents are to blame. Younger voters have been given everything and in return they gave nothing and therefore were taught nothing.
Yes OP younger voters actually would identify more libertarian if you put there beliefs on a graph or something, but vote democrat more because of the social issues
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:37 pm to weagle99
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And if so how does the movement break through the 2 party chokehold?
By winning through the market and not the political system.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:38 pm to DanTiger
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I believe that a few would rally to the cause because they understand it but it would be a very small number. How old were the Founding Fathers when they wrote the Declaration of Independence? Some were younger but the vast majority were over 33. People are also most creative in the mid 30s and I think that is because we have lived enough to understand life, to a degree, and have developed the ability to think outside of the box.
I think he was talking about JoJo and his blaming the youth for everything.
No but there is a legitimate point to saying that peoples politics change. I mean from a purely nonacademic approach. You first vote when you are 18, maybe if you are unlucky, you vote on president when you are 21. so there is a chance you will only see one president in charge prior to turning 29. one reason i think they are going pro libertarian as they have seen what many of them are considering a shitty rep in bush and a shitty dem in obama.
that is not even taking into account how much you learn about the world from 18-30
Posted on 7/18/14 at 1:51 pm to petar
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one reason i think they are going pro libertarian as they have seen what many of them are considering a shitty rep in bush and a shitty dem in obama.
that is not even taking into account how much you learn about the world from 18-30
I'm not sure they are going libertarian. This election should give us more of a read on that. I do think you have a generation of voters that really bought into Obama's message that politics as usual can be changed (as Palin said that "hopey-changey thing"). They've been disappointed. Now who they blame for that disappointment-Obama, the obstructionists in the House, a two party system-I don't know. I think we have to see how that shakes out when they vote again in a national election. Personally, I think they were just naive. Bill Clinton's description of that was right on to me-it was a fairy tale. Obama is not stupid, he is in fact too cerebral. He thinks politics should be intellectual. It is not and never will be. But hey, I'm old and my eyes were opened long ago.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:01 pm to weagle99
My generation knows nothing about economics. Can't blame them, who would teach them.
So Libertarianism is out of the question. You need to have faith in the market to be a libertarian. And most don't understand or have faith in capitalism.
So Libertarianism is out of the question. You need to have faith in the market to be a libertarian. And most don't understand or have faith in capitalism.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:01 pm to wfeliciana
It will be tough to sell young folks the libertarian economic message. It is difficult for them to find jobs, which means many of them are attracted to gov't intervention in the form of a jobs guarantee, tax-funded services, etc.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:03 pm to wfeliciana
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This election should give us more of a read on that.
that's true. I haven't looked at polling number on Ron Paul or Gary Johnson but id imagine the demographics would be telling. Although there is no way to tell (and it is more likely the libertarian would post thier views on facebook as there was a less negative connotation to them rather than Romney or Obama), social media prior to last election was just as much pro ron paul and gary johnson as it was pro obama and Romney.
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Personally, I think they were just naive
not disagreeing.. think that is kind of the reason why they are pro libertarian at this point. Dem's have fooled em in Obama. many didn't vote for Bush but many still blame him for alot of problems. and the republicans have not helped them selves out with Congress's action or lack of action.
They don't like Obama. Think the Republicans are just as dumb and not in favor of social issues that young people like. so libertarian.
kind of like a no other option thing
Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:09 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I've been a Libertarian since high school.
Impressive. It took me till grad school to turn Libertarian. But then I read the Encyclopedia in at age 11. When did you read it?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:10 pm to petar
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kind of like a no other option thing
Yes, I can agree that for many, and not just the young, that Libertarian may be the only available option now. Though most of those Libertarians still have the R next to their name. So they have to look at the baggage that goes with that.
It's a shame that a viable 3rd party can not be established in this country.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:11 pm to weagle99
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Are younger voters ripe to be converted to Libertarianism?
In our public education system / church of government no way. Kids are being indoctrinated to no longer be individuals.
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