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re: The Official Comic Book Villain Tournament (Round I)Vote Off Needed (Page 6)
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:07 am to BS
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:07 am to BS
I'm not sure how Loki can beat Amazo. Amazo can adapt/copy any ability, and has basically copied all of the Justice Leagues abilities. The combined efforts of the entire JL could barely stop him, how can Loki stop him?
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 10:13 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:14 am to Bamatab
This is what I'm thinking also. Plus he would copy and have Loki's powers as well.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:31 am to Bamatab
Loki could make an illusion for Amazo to copy. The possibilities Loki could use could be unlimited
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 10:43 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:41 am to Darkknight
Yeah, Loki just needs to confuse Amazo enough to incapacitate him.
Which I think he could easily do the first time around with no prior knowledge.
Remember these opponents have no prior knowledge of each other or their powers.
Which I think he could easily do the first time around with no prior knowledge.
Remember these opponents have no prior knowledge of each other or their powers.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:58 am to bigpetedatiga
quote:
Match #1
place #1: Mr. Sinister
Match #2
place #2: Silver Samurai
Match #3
place #1: Poison Ivy
Match #4
place #1: Brainiac
Match #5
place #2: Omega Red
Match #6
place #1: Bullseye
Match #7
place #1: Hellblazer (Preacher)
Match #8
place #1: Gorilla Grodd
Match #9
place #2: Black Mask
Match #10
place #2: Mandarin
Match #11
place #1: Joker
Match #12
place #1: Doctor Doom
Match #13
place #2: Thanos
Match #14
place #2: Doctor Octopus
Match #15
place #1: Scarecrow
Match #16
place #1: Prometheus
Match #17
place #2: Sinestro
Match #18
place #1: Doomsday
Match #19
place #2: Abomination
Match #20
place #2: Mr. Freeze
Match #21
place #1: Vandal Savage
Match #22
place #1: Juggernaut
Match #23
place #1: Sentinel
Match #24
place #2: Darkseid
Match #25
place #2: Loki
Match #26
place #1: Red Skull
Match #27
place #2: Black Manta
Match #28
place #1: Owl Man
Match #29
place #1: The Green Goblin
Match #30
place #2: Magneto
Match #31
place #2: Apocalypse
Match #32
place #2: Ultron
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:58 am to bigpetedatiga
Yeah, but once Loki made an illusion, then Amazo would then copy that power. Loki could confuse him once maybe, but that's it. And even if he did confuse him, how would he kill/incapacitate him? Amazo has the powers of the entire Justice League (or at least the ones that have fought him). Amazo would hear him coming a mile away since he theoretically has Superman's hearing and what ever other powers he has copied to this point.
ETA: An it would be a lot harder for Loki to trick Amazo since Amazo is a robot. Being a robot should allow him to process an illusion a lot easier than a living person. Add his accumulated powers to him being a robot, and I don't know how susceptible Amazo is to being "tricked" by Loki. And like I said, Loki would have one shot even if he could, and then Amazo would have his powers.
ETA: An it would be a lot harder for Loki to trick Amazo since Amazo is a robot. Being a robot should allow him to process an illusion a lot easier than a living person. Add his accumulated powers to him being a robot, and I don't know how susceptible Amazo is to being "tricked" by Loki. And like I said, Loki would have one shot even if he could, and then Amazo would have his powers.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:11 am to Bamatab
quote:
but once Loki made an illusion, then Amazo would then copy that power
I don't think Amazo would copy an illusion of Loki. Amazo absorbs the powers of whoever is in the area. So if the real Loki is in the area, which he would have to be for the fight, then Amazo absorbs Loki's powers.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:35 am to bigpetedatiga
quote:
Match #1
place #1: Mr. Sinister
place #2: Quicksilver
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Match #2
place #1: Cheetah
place #2: Silver Samurai
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Match #3
place #1: Poison Ivy
place #2: Carnage
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Match #4
place #1: Brainiac
place #2: Super Skrull
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Match #5
place #1: Despero
place #2: Omega Red
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Match #6
place #1: Bullseye
place #2: Queen Bee
wiki says she can fight big barda to a stand still, plus what bigpetedatiga said about controlling men, this shouldnt be a fight.
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Match #7
place #1: Hellblazer (Preacher)
place #2: Gideon Gordan Graves (Scott Pilgrim)
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Match #8
place #1: Gorilla Grodd
place #2: Violator (Spawn)
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Match #9
place #1: Blackheart
place #2: Black Mask
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Match #10
place #1: Solomon Grundy
place #2: Mandarin
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Match #11
place #1: Joker
place #2: Ra\'al Ghul
very tough. Ra's is very good against normal fighting minds. i think the Joker's complete psychosis will make the difference here.
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Match #12
place #1: Doctor Doom
place #2: General Zod
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Match #13
place #1: Lex Luther (Suit)
place #2: Thanos
bad match up for Lex
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Match #14
place #1: Negan (The Walking Dead)Prometheus
place #2: Doctor Octopus
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Match #15
place #1: Scarecrow
place #2: Professor Zoom (Reverse Flash)
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Match #16
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Alien Queen (Aliens/Aliens V. Predator/Judge Dredd)
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Match #17
place #1: The Governor (The Walking Dead)
place #2: Sinestro
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Match #18
place #1: Doomsday
place #2: Black Adam
Black Adam=Shazam>Superman>Doomsday
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Match #19
place #1: Deathstroke
place #2: Abomination
tough. this could be subject to change if someone makes a good case for deathstroke
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Match #20
place #1: Venom
place #2: Mr. Freeze
this one is getting over looked. while carnage easily won, does venom easily beat being frozen solid? i think Freeze can take venom
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Match #21
place #1: Vandal Savage
place #2: Bane
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Match #22
place #1: Juggernaut
place #2: Shredder (TMNT)
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Match #23
place #1: Sentinel
place #2: Mother fricker (Kick arse)
haha how long will sentinel go?
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Match #24
place #1: Daken
place #2: Darkseid
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Match #25
place #1: Amazo
place #2: Loki
eta: going with the robot.
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Match #26
place #1: Red Skull
place #2: Sabretooth
how would red skull win this?
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Match #27
place #1: Taskmaster
place #2: Black Manta
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Match #28
place #1: Owl Man
place #2: Mephistto
isnt mephisto a god?
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Match #29
place #1: The Green Goblin
place #2: Darth Vader (Star Wars)
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Match #30
place #1: Jigsaw
place #2: Magneto
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Match #31
place #1: Super Woman
place #2: Apocalypse
quote:
Match #32
place #1: Grigori Rasputin (Hellboy)
place #2: Ultron
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:43 am to BlacknGold
before voting closes, can we talk about a few match ups? i would just like to see both sides now before we go down the same path we did for the heroes.
how would bullseye beat queen bee?
can venom that easily overcome being frozen solid?
i made a case for black adam, just like to hear the flipside of why doomsday would win here.
how would bullseye beat queen bee?
can venom that easily overcome being frozen solid?
i made a case for black adam, just like to hear the flipside of why doomsday would win here.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:09 pm to BlacknGold
quote:
can venom that easily overcome being frozen solid?
Absolutely.
That is why i picked Mr. Freeze.
He is a super genius. He is invulnerable to toxins or bacteria, super strength, and his gun shoots at sub zero temperatures.
I have no doubt that one blast would put Venom down for a while. Which is all Freeze needs to do to advance.
The symbiote is not invulnerable. It is especially susceptible to Sonic Waves, Electricity, and Heat.
So its not too far fetched to imagine cold would slow him down.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:10 pm to bigpetedatiga
quote:
Absolutely.
That is why i picked Mr. Freeze.
so, absolutely not then?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:16 pm to BlacknGold
quote:
i made a case for black adam, just like to hear the flipside of why doomsday would win here.
Black Adam would have to figure out a way to kill Doomsday in a way that Doomsday hasn't been killed or stopped with in the past. Yeah Superman has beat him, but Black Adam can't kill him in that same manner now. So I just think that Doomsday would kill or incapacitate Black Adam before Black Adam could figure out a way to kill him since Black Adam knows nothing about him or how he has been defeated in the past.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:23 pm to Bamatab
i can see that. i think its one of the closest match ups. as you mentioned, doomsday does that have that "ever evolving" type of power and has taken out the justice league (not the strongest version of the team).
Black Adam does have magic going for him, which Doomsday hasnt really evolved past yet. i would actually like to see him or Shazam go up against doomsday.
Black Adam does have magic going for him, which Doomsday hasnt really evolved past yet. i would actually like to see him or Shazam go up against doomsday.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:25 pm to Darkknight
quote:
So if the real Loki is in the area, which he would have to be for the fight, then Amazo absorbs Loki's powers.
Yep, and that includes Loki's magic. And Amazo is going to be processing his surroundings like a computer, using the powers he has gained from all of the other characters he has come into contact with. Loki could create an illusion of himself somewhere, but Amazo could figure out that it is an illusion and where Loki really is pretty quickly considering he has Superman's super hearing and x-ray vision.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:30 pm to bigpetedatiga
Match #1
place #2: Quicksilver
Match #2
place #2: Silver Samurai
Match #3
place #2: Carnage
Match #4
place #1: Brainiac
Match #5
place #2: Omega Red
Match #6
place #2: Queen Bee
Match #7
place #1: Hellblazer (Preacher)
Match #8
place #1: Gorilla Grodd
Match #9
place #2: Black Mask
Match #10
place #2: Mandarin
Match #11
place #1: Joker
Match #12
place #1: Doctor Doom
Match #13
place #2: Thanos
Match #14
place #2: Doctor Octopus
Match #15
place #1: Scarecrow
Match #16
place #1: Prometheus
Match #17
place #2: Sinestro
Match #18
place #2: Black Adam
Match #19
place #1: Deathstroke
Match #20
place #1: Venom
Match #21
place #2: Bane
Match #22
place #1: Juggernaut
Match #23
place #1: Sentinel
Match #24
place #2: Darkseid
Match #25
place #2: Loki
Match #26
place #1: Red Skull
Match #27
place #2: Black Manta
Match #28
place #2: Mephistto
Match #29
place #1: The Green Goblin
Match #30
place #2: Magneto
Match #31
place #2: Apocalypse
Match #32
place #2: Ultron
place #2: Quicksilver
Match #2
place #2: Silver Samurai
Match #3
place #2: Carnage
Match #4
place #1: Brainiac
Match #5
place #2: Omega Red
Match #6
place #2: Queen Bee
Match #7
place #1: Hellblazer (Preacher)
Match #8
place #1: Gorilla Grodd
Match #9
place #2: Black Mask
Match #10
place #2: Mandarin
Match #11
place #1: Joker
Match #12
place #1: Doctor Doom
Match #13
place #2: Thanos
Match #14
place #2: Doctor Octopus
Match #15
place #1: Scarecrow
Match #16
place #1: Prometheus
Match #17
place #2: Sinestro
Match #18
place #2: Black Adam
Match #19
place #1: Deathstroke
Match #20
place #1: Venom
Match #21
place #2: Bane
Match #22
place #1: Juggernaut
Match #23
place #1: Sentinel
Match #24
place #2: Darkseid
Match #25
place #2: Loki
Match #26
place #1: Red Skull
Match #27
place #2: Black Manta
Match #28
place #2: Mephistto
Match #29
place #1: The Green Goblin
Match #30
place #2: Magneto
Match #31
place #2: Apocalypse
Match #32
place #2: Ultron
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:34 pm to BlacknGold
quote:
Black Adam does have magic going for him, which Doomsday hasnt really evolved past yet. i would actually like to see him or Shazam go up against doomsday.
Black Adam's powers are derived from magic, but he doesn't project magic in his attacks. I guess he could call lightning down on Doomsday, but if Doomsday can survive the full force of Darkseid's omega beam, then I think he can survive lightning.
And I don't know if Doomsday is even susceptible to magic like Superman. Yeah he is half Kryptonian, but he doesn't have all of Superman's abilities or weaknesses. I can't recall him ever being susceptible to magic.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:35 pm to Bamatab
i may have to switch to amazo.
can he mimic magic like super powers though? idk if hes ever displayed magic based powers
can he mimic magic like super powers though? idk if hes ever displayed magic based powers
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:37 pm to BlacknGold
I meant I think Freeze easily wins!
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:38 pm to BlacknGold
I'm pretty sure he has copied Zatanna's powers before.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:43 pm to Bamatab
is Loki even using "magic?" i cant keep up with marvels explanations of the norse gods. are they just super advanced or is it magic? if its not true magic and is just appears as magic due to their advancement then amazo should be able to access that.
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