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re: Apt Complex Requires Tenant To Remove US Flag - "Threat to Muslim Community"
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:25 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:25 am to imjustafatkid
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I thought the same thing, but I feel like they would have said that to the reporter when they were questioned before they had them forcibly removed from the property.
Better never to talk to the media and step into Tran's circus. I could be wrong, but it just sounds to juicy and not something that would be said by someone in Webster.
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:25 am to SpidermanTUba
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Are you against the rights of private business owners to do as they please with their own property?
No, I'm against unAmerican assholes. I'm not looking to have the FBI intervene, I'm looking to shame the shite out of the guy who doesn't want an American flag flown in America.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:25 am to PuntBamaPunt
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PuntBamaPunt
You own the apartment complex? I just did a google search to try to find that statement and I don't see it anywhere.
I should note that the apartment manager is on video refusing to answer the question posed.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:26 am to PuntBamaPunt
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We understand that the recent events surrounding the display of the United States Flag on the balcony railing has caused a great deal of consternation. We regret that the policies, consistent with the hotel and apartment industry, have created an incorrect perception that we are not supportive of patriotism.
Residents are allowed to display flags inside their balconies. However, tarps, tents, flags, towels or clothing are not permitted on or over the railing of balconies and patios in order to maintain an aesthetically consistent image.
We are committed to providing a safe, comfortable and pleasant living environment to our residents through service, attention to detail and exacting expectations. Our goal is to deliver a positive living experience for all of our residents and regret the misunderstanding.
We apologize for anything that may have been communicated regarding the policy that was offensive to Mr. Tran at The Lodge on El Dorado in Webster, Texas. We admire our resident’s patriotism and proudly display our Country’s flag at the entrance to our community.
where did you get this? is this from the complex?
if so than Tran should have to take it down
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:27 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:26 am to imjustafatkid
Right by my house. The apartments are going to lose this on the PR front before they ever even have a chance to fine him.
This is Houston, not California. Those apartments will have bored housewives and "patriots" picketing and bitching by the end of the day...and they will fold.
This is Houston, not California. Those apartments will have bored housewives and "patriots" picketing and bitching by the end of the day...and they will fold.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:27 am to Mike da Tigah
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BIGGER QUESTION....
Should WE feel threatened with a person who feels threatened by our very flag? Should that concern me most of all?
BETTER QUESTION: Should we unblinkingly believe Tran's story?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:27 am to imjustafatkid
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Doesn't he pay to use the property? You don't think he should be allowed to decorate the apartment he pays for in whatever way he deems fit?
Depends on what the lease says. The last apartment I was in allowed no flags at all.
If the lease allows flags, then it is bullshite. If the lease doesn't, then they should have just said they don't allow flags.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:27 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:27 am to MSMHater
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Right by my house. The apartments are going to lose this on the PR front before they ever even have a chance to fine him.
This is Houston, not California. Those apartments will have bored housewives and "patriots" picketing and bitching by the end of the day...and they will fold.
And that is the Free Market of Ideas and Public Opinion at work, just as it should be.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:28 am to imjustafatkid
Even though I think it's a crappy decision by the manager of the apartment complex, it should be within his rights to make such decisions as the owner of said complex. The same should have held true for the Colorado bakers and the Arizona photographer.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:29 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:28 am to PuntBamaPunt
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They posted it on their Facebook page.
Tran was full of shite and trolled everyone.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:29 am to imjustafatkid
What a stupid thing to get upset about. I couldn't mount a satellite dish to my balcony when I was renting in college and I didn't cry to the media about it.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:30 am to SpidermanTUba
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Are you against the rights of private business owners to do as they please with their own property?
no
and i'm not against the rights of us to discuss this, or allow the tenants to discuss this
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:33 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:why is someone in America if they feel threatened by the American flag?
BIGGER QUESTION....
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:33 am to SG_Geaux
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Depends on what the lease says. The last apartment I was in allowed no flags at all.
If the lease allows flags, then it is bullshite. If the lease doesn't, then they should have just said they don't allow flags.
I can agree with this. I would hope the guy wouldn't be dumb enough to take this stance if the lease says you can't fly flags.
Huffington Post is also reporting the same facts on this issue:
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The apartment complex wouldn't talk to them either.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:33 am to cwill
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BETTER QUESTION: Should we unblinkingly believe Tran's story?
Perhaps that is a better one, but my issue is more along the perception that our flag would be seen as a threat.
Apartment community standards are a completely different thing entirely. I can clearly understand why they would not wish for anything to be hanging on people's balconies. It looks like shite.
What the manager said and what the property management response is sounds like the could have been two different things. Across the board policy is one thing, but singling out what can hang from a balcony to what can't could prove to be a real sticking point.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:33 am to Choctaw
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if its in the contract that he can't put up a flag than fine.
Most leases restrict what the tenant can display outside. For example, in the lease we have with our tenants, we have the clause:
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36. UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA RULE The tenant agrees to not display flags, banners, pennants, signs, colors, logos, marks, badges, images, figures, symbols, emblem, foam fingers, or mottos of or indicating support of the University of Alabama football team in any manner visible to any person standing outside the Premises.
(for the record, our current tenants are not bama fans. Feel free to use the above clause, I submit it to the public domain, though you may want to check for typos)
Any large apartment complex I've ever lived in has already had extremely restrictive terms on what can be displayed outside the apartment (like nothing, really). They want the complex to look like they want it to look.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:35 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:34 am to imjustafatkid
If the lease has any sort of restrictions on this display, then the landlord has every right to allow this...even if his/her reasons are complete bullshite.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:34 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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What a stupid thing to get upset about. I couldn't mount a satellite dish to my balcony when I was renting in college and I didn't cry to the media about it.
He didn't use a flag mount or I could see your point. Some of you folks are really grasping at straws here.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:35 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:34 am to Revelator
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The same should have held true for the Colorado bakers and the Arizona photographer.
They didn't have a contract with the strangers off the street, so it's not really the same thing.
Renters have rights, so if there is nothing in his lease that prohibits the flag and how it's displayed, he has the right to contest it. Otherwise, he signed an agreement that would win over his desire to have the flag.
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